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Poke'mon Butt/Wipe & Crap/Brown *Rant

Cahos Rahne Veloza
#61
nu885.. in which you get to pick what your reaction is./. i know there's a name for it but im drawing a blank right now
Well if the Pokemon games ever get to have a visual novel spin off what you're saying might work.As an example:Having arrived late at Professor Oak's lab you find that the only Pokemon he has left is a Pikachu....[me=Enter scenario options]What will you do now?[/me]A. Fine! Give me the stupid Pikachu!!
B. Hey old turd, go out there & get me a better starter asshole!
C. Feck this, just give me a digivice instead!LOL!But seriously, instead of giving you the "traditional" Fire>Water>Grass starters, why not give you the opportunity to choose from a different set like how about Fighting>Psychic>Dark?
Stanley Richards
#62
"Just play the bastards and forget about whatever shit happens."
nu885OP
#63
Cahos Rahne Veloza · #61Well if the Pokemon games ever get to have a visual novel spin off what you're saying might work.As an example:Having arrived late at Professor Oak's lab you find that the only Pokemon he has left is a Pikachu....[me=Enter scenario options]What will you do now?[/me]A. Fine! Give me the stupid Pikachu!!
B. Hey old turd, go out there & get me a better starter asshole!
C. Feck this, just give me a digivice instead!LOL!But seriously, instead of giving you the "traditional" Fire>Water>Grass starters, why not give you the opportunity to choose from a different set like how about Fighting>Psychic>Dark?
i choose B. hahah and i also agree with the starter poke'mon idea though i'd love to start out with an eevee like gary does in the yellow version then you'd have atleast 5 different combos that i know of..eevee probably evolves into a legendary pokemon now or will soon enough
Suiseiseki
#64
nu885having the attention span of a chipmunk? really? i bet that took alot of thinking there..
Nope, I don't put any thought into my rants anymore. Nobody appreciates them and I get banned if I go too far. I think I do quite well within the confines given me.
nu885wow i said the games were good up to ruby, i dont remember playing ruby on my GB, idiot and i never said that i didnt like turn-based battle systems (i wouldnt have beaten all the pokemon games and final fantasies if i hated turn- based you moron!)
When I said GB, I meant the original games. If you don't like turn-based systems, why complain about this one?
nu885i hate calling people names on the internet but obviously just because you cant play a game that takes more thinking than paper-scissor-rock and you're calling me an idiot? i probably played pokemon while you were crying to you mom wanting to watch elmo on sesame street.. who said anything about Halo? i dont even like that game... and if you didnt wanna read a rant about poke'mon why didnt you just read the topic? so dont go bitchin like a lil pussy to me because you decided to open the topic and read. alot of people here agree there needs to be more to the game, sorry if we like to have more in our games than what they did 10 years ago... i said more than just the battle system so you obviously agree about the lame story
Man, you obviously don't know of me. I like how you assume I can't play anything other than Pokemon. This amuses me. You've also yet to discern the difference between bitching and PURE UNADULTERATED RAGE. I like reading well constructed rants. Yours is not. I simply don't see why Nintendo should drastically change a formula that has worked for over a decade - a formula that, in essence, is perfect the way it is. I don't give a shit about story, either. Red and Blue had no real story. I loved them. Platinum had a story, but that's okay since I love it too. Also, obligatory >implying the games you play require any thought or skill
nu885i beat ruby/sapphire/emerald i know i wasnt clear on this before, im sorry haha i keep forgetting about diamond and the others haha the anger was gettin to me... i played the newer ones but i just couldnt bare it long enough to beat it i just felt like i was playing the same game againalso why would i have kefka as my avatar if i hated turn-based games? or was that game before your time Suiseiseki?
UMAD? Oh man, you must be new around here if you're trying to be condescending to me. It only makes you look like an imbecile to the people that matter, just so you know.
Cahos Rahne VelozaThere are only three things I'd like to see changed in the main Pokemon games:1. The Plot - the games uses the same plot elements over & over, a kid gets his/her own Pokemon from a lazy ass Professor who doesn't want to do his job & let a kid do it. He then wants nothing more than to be a great Pokemon trainer but he/she then has to deal with a group of *insert team name here* generic villains that don't even have a very diabolical intention in mind, just stealing Pokemon for profit.2. And speaking of profit, why won't they (GameFreaks) incorporate the ability to sell Pokemon you've caught for extra money? I mean, you catch over 500 Pokemon & you only need six in your team, so why not sell the rest to buy much needed inventory items instead of just letting them rot (so to speak) in storage right? Come to think of it, the first team of villains (Team Rocket) doesn't seem to be bad folks if you base it on my proposed idea seeing they are illegally selling Pokemon they stole to people. Had the Government officials in Pokemonland allowed the selling/buying of Pokemon in the first place, Team Rocket would have probably built a very successful & legal business.3. Remove the need to go to Nintendo events to get a hold of event Pokemon :P As I said in the "Cheating is bad thread", not everyone has the opportunity to attend such events so by hosting such events Nintendo is being a big dick about letting fans really catch 'em all :P
1. Plot doesn't really matter, the game's about you and capturing Pokemon. Putting a ton of storyline restrictions on a player in a game that is by nature a pseudo-sandbox makes the game feel more closed-in. I like the looser plotlines of the earlier games (R/S/E just didn't do it for me in that sense despite being good games in their own right) where you're on your adventure and occasionally run into Team Rocket.2. If you run out of money at any point in the games after about the fifth badge you are doing it very wrong.3. You don't need to go to Nintendo events to get any of the things like Rotom formes, Oak's Letter etc anymore. There are Wifi events that give you a Mystery Gift. I downloaded Yellow Forest a couple of weeks ago. Didn't need to leave the house. As for the things like the movie release Pokemon, yeah, well, you're sort of screwed. But so is everyone else.Also, Cahos, in case you didn't know, Pokemon already has a manga. Go read Pokemon Special, you might like it. It's an overall darker world than the games. I really liked it.

Replying to #63

Speaking frankly, Eevee is a terrible pokemon to start with. I'm doing a runthrough of Platinum using one. SO SO BAD.tl;dr if you don't like the main series' game mechanics...
Cahos Rahne Veloza
#65

Replying to #64

I actually found out about the manga from here on RomUlation from die hard fans sometime ago as there is a dedicated thread about is as well.And about that photo you posted....LOL!
nu885OP
#66
Suiseiseki · #64UMAD? Oh man, you must be new around here if you're trying to be condescending to me. It only makes you look like an imbecile to the people that matter, just so you know.
hahahahahaha wow both of your posts are the same nothing new except for your bickering about methe story might not matter to you or other "hardcore" (haha sounds funny putting that with poke'mon) fans but it matters to people who enjoy the game not just the catch/grind/breed repeat...i admit alot of the multiplayer/co-op games the story means little to me but in a single-player game its 50% of the game in my opinion..some games are like an interactive book to me and i enjoy playing them because of the story.. i loved the gameplay in Disgaea but the story made me wanna puke and i didnt continue the game because of that alone...of course to make eevee a more effective starter they'd have to hand over the stones earlier in the game, but i dig normal type poke'mon anyway
Suiseiseki
#67

Replying to #66

No, they're not. But I take it that you agree with everything else I said, since you haven't argued the points I made.

Replying to #66

Oh wait, you are replying to them? For a minute there I pegged you as some ignorant fuckta- oh.But I digress. If you enjoy the game, you enjoy it. If the catch/grind/breed/etc as well as the story are such big deals, don't play anymore. Pokemon is not by nature a game about story. You want a game about story, go play a proper RPG. Also, I still haven't seen a decent argument as to why the core mechanics of Pokemon's main series should be changed. "Change for the sake of change" is never a good thing.And Eevee is still terrible. It's stuck with Tackle for an ungodly length of time. My starting one has Curse and Wish and it's still horrendously bad. Eevee and its evolutions only really get good setups from TMs and/or high levels.
nu885OP
#68

Replying to #67

maybe in the newer versions but you get the TM water gun very early in red/blue/yellow and im almost 100% sure eevee can learn it even though its not a "vaporeon" yet.. heck, rattata can learn it hahaand "change for the sake of change" isnt bad considering you'd be playing pokemon black & white in "black & white" with the same 150 pokemon from the beginning so dont preach that hypocritical bullshit to me haha hell poke'mon black and white would exist if "change for the sake of change" wasnt necessary :Poh and ive argued my reasons why it should change from the beginning post on and it wasn't good enough for you so just deal with it man.. this thread isnt "how i should convince Suiseiseki that change is good" its a rant its in the topic :Pi didnt say that the coding to the game was bugged or anything i just said it needed to change thats why i dont have a better reason than "change for the sake of change"
sexywogboy
#69
LoonylionActually digimon came first.
Incorrect actually.The first Pokémon media, Pokémon Red and Blue, were released initially on February 27, 1996, whereas the Digimon virtual pet was released on June 26, 1997.
sylar1000
#70
ace1o1I don't know.I collected the cards years before I played the actual games. :P
The game came first
Suiseiseki
#71
nu885 · #68maybe in the newer versions but you get the TM water gun very early in red/blue/yellow and im almost 100% sure eevee can learn it even though its not a "vaporeon" yet.. heck, rattata can learn it hahaand "change for the sake of change" isnt bad considering you'd be playing pokemon black & white in "black & white" with the same 150 pokemon from the beginning so dont preach that hypocritical bullshit to me haha hell poke'mon black and white would exist if "change for the sake of change" wasnt necessary :Poh and ive argued my reasons why it should change from the beginning post on and it wasn't good enough for you so just deal with it man.. this thread isnt "how i should convince Suiseiseki that change is good" its a rant its in the topic :Pi didnt say that the coding to the game was bugged or anything i just said it needed to change thats why i dont have a better reason than "change for the sake of change"
I don'tI don't understand anything you said in that post.
Inunah
#72
Well, Pokemon has been getting better, actually. In the new Black/White games, in a battle the Pokemon constantly move and the attacks/pokemon actually go to hit each other as they now do in PBR. The camera is now more 3D and much better than Diamond/Pearl's ever was.I've heard they're even putting more new ideas into the battle system, so you should at least check out a gameplay video when the game comes out in Japan. They might have made the game...... Ultimate.Don't go on criticizing when there's something new being developed. Wait until you know exactly what they're doing with it.
ace1o1
#73
sylar1000 · #70The game came first
Ok.Thanks for clearing that up. :)
nex26
#74
Suiseiseki · #71I don'tI don't understand anything you said in that post.
You're not the only one. He wants change but, by his own admittance, doesn't have any good reason for change.Also upgrading the graphics does not count as change for the sake of change.
Suiseiseki
#75

Replying to #74

I tried reading itApparently franchise expansion is the same as change for the sake of change in regards to gameplay mechanicsAnd change for the sake of change is seemingly an excellent idea despite swathes of financial precedent stating otherwiseThere is no sense in his posts
Stanley Richards
#76
As Suiseiseki (Your name is hard to spell) said, Pokemon games need not have a story. The anime barely has story now... It's like episodes of Simpsons until they reach another Gym.
markswan
#77
Suiseiseki · #75Apparently franchise expansion is the same as change for the sake of change in regards to gameplay mechanics
Reading "change for the sake of change" over and over is driving me nuts.
Suiseiseki · #75And change for the sake of change is seemingly an excellent idea despite swathes of financial precedent stating otherwise
Making lots of money despite making no effort to improve the franchise benefits the developer and publisher, not the gamers who buy it. If GAMEFREAK hadn't included the breeding, ability to hold items, shiny Poke'mon and all the other stuff that they added to the franchise in Gold and Silver; people would still have bought it. If it had just been the same as Red and Blue but with a different map and a few different Poke'mon; people would still have bought it, it would still have sold millions. It's reasonably for you to dispute the suggested changes to the future instalments, but saying that something that sells well must be good would make The Phantom Menace one of the greatest films of all time. It's possible to have too much of a good thing; if every new Poke'mon game was built to fit into the exact same template, I feel that it wouldn't be long until everyone except the die-hards abandoned it completely for the next fad.
Inunah · #72Well, Pokemon has been getting better, actually. In the new Black/White games, in a battle the Pokemon constantly move and the attacks/pokemon actually go to hit each other as they now do in PBR. The camera is now more 3D and much better than Diamond/Pearl's ever was.
I haven't seen the video/pictures of those things, could you link please?
Suiseiseki · #64Nope, I don't put any thought into my rants anymore. Nobody appreciates them and I get banned if I go too far. I think I do quite well within the confines given me.
I like rants, everyone likes a little drama now and then.
Suiseiseki · #64When I said GB, I meant the original games. If you don't like turn-based systems, why complain about this one?
The turn-based fighting system in FF games have often been changed dramatically between games, this may make them seem fresher to some... I personally don't mind the system as it is now, but as I said earlier; making all battles double battles would be an improvement IMO.
Suiseiseki · #64I don't give a shit about story, either. Red and Blue had no real story. I loved them. Platinum had a story, but that's okay since I love it too. Also, obligatory >implying the games you play require any thought or skill
To be honest, I don't see much of a difference in complexity between the stories of any generation. In Red and Blue for example; I thought that the side story about Team Rocket murdering cubone's mother and then her spirit haunting that tower was pretty deep for a kid's game. On an unrelated note, when I first played through Red, when I was a kid, I didn't know you needed the scope thing to get past the ghost in the tower; I used a Poke'doll instead. I didn't realise until my fourth play through what the "proper" way to proceed was. :)
Suiseiseki · #64UMAD? Oh man, you must be new around here if you're trying to be condescending to me. It only makes you look like an imbecile to the people that matter, just so you know.
Lol, egotastic. Wow, I hope that the shame caused by disapproval from "the people that matter" doesn't lead to anyone in this thread crying themselves to sleep at night :)
Stanley Richards
#78
^There isn't a good story in pokemon games, and there shouldnt be.
Usoppu
#79
Why would adding a decent story restrict anything?, the game is still linear even without it because of its layout.Another thing I wouldn't mind, is a difficulty setting at the beginning. Which would effect pokemon levels, money gained, battle mode ('set' mode would be forced in the hardest) etc.
These ideas can only be seen as beneficial, surely. They don't screw with what's already there.
Stanley Richards
#80

Replying to #79

If thats the case, WiFi battles would be quite unbalanced. And the possibility of breaking the games from the start is really high.
And I think people play the game not for the story, but rather just for the fun of raising pokemon, training them and such. A story is quite meaningless as it may give us that "Finish one story in a town, move on to the next" and not have any free-exploration until you beat the game.
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