Death of Poland's president

http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/world/3569743/Polish-presidents-plane-crashes-in-Russia-87-die
I would never imagine this will happen...

Polish President Lech Kaczynski and some of the country's highest military and civilian leaders died when the presidential plane crashed as it came in for a landing in thick fog in western Russia today (NZ time), killing 96, officials said.Russian and Polish officials said there were no survivors on the Soviet-era Tupolev, which was taking the president, his wife and staff to events marking the 70th anniversary of the massacre of thousands of Polish officers by Soviet secret police.The Army chief of staff, Gen. Franciszek Gagor, National Bank President Slawomir Skrzypek and Deputy Foreign Minister Andrzej Kremer were also on board, the Polish foreign ministry said.Russia's Emergency Ministry said there were 96 dead, 88 part of a Polish state delegation. Poland's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Piotr Paszkowski, said there were 89 people on the passenger list but one person had not shown up."We still cannot fully understand the scope of this tragedy and what it means for us in the future. Nothing like this has ever happened in Poland," Paszkowski said. "We can assume with great certainty that all persons on board have been killed."The governor of the Smolensk region, where the crash took place about 11am (7pm NZ time), also said no one survived.

Woah! That's like an all-in-one for his enemies! O.O

im just glad it wasnt airforce 1.
the conspiracy theory geeks would take over discovery channel and its all i would hear on the news for months.

and i thought Poland and Russia are friends now... somebody should say something that WWII is over... they even had that Warsaw Pact...Well, his VP is a very happy man now.

Replying to #4

Poland and Russia were never friends, but russians have nothing to do with this. It was an accident. And now they are helping us with crashsite investigation.

I feel bad for the president's children if he had any... they lost both of their parents in just a flash...
maybe a miracle will happen and even just 1 soul would be found alive.

that particular type of plane is often involved in crashes, its soviet era and has a piss poor safety record.

Surprising the plane wasnt on its way to the UK.

I honestly wouldnt be surprised if the CAA has banned those aircraft from british airspace, given their history of serious incidents.

damanali · #6I feel bad for the president's children if he had any... they lost both of their parents in just a flash...
maybe a miracle will happen and even just 1 soul would be found alive.

They had a daughter. And no miracles yet...

Loonylion · #7that particular type of plane is often involved in crashes, its soviet era and has a piss poor safety record.

Well, they intended to change it in the future, but it's too late now...

Well that's a huge blow to Poland's political balance.From what I heard from TV it looks like it's the pilot's fault. He refused to change the landing location despite the thick fog and tried 3-4 times to land. Then a wing hit the top of some trees, and we all know the results. I also heard that Putin in person has been named as responsible of the investigation regarding the crash, is that true?

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Yes, it's true. And it's not the fault of pilot alone, the passengers decided not to change landing location too... Bad choice.

Well in a couple of years we should see it on Discovery Channel.

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Don't you mean National Geographic? Well, not that Seconds from Disaster still airs... I loved that show.Ouch for Poland... But at least now, they're going to ban that specific model now, right? Especially after an important political official has been killed?

When a president of a country dies, i feel the whole country dies with him. His primary duty to represent his country and to serve it. I feel the same sadness his people feel. If our president dies like that, many of our countrymen will love it, but well, i would be one who would mourn.How old is the daughter? maybe she is of legal age, right? From seeing pictures of the president with his wife, i think their daughter will be more than 20 years old. But still, its still pretty sad.

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Yeah, she's adult. But she lost her parents nonetheless...

MessoMesso · #14Don't you mean National Geographic? Well, not that Seconds from Disaster still airs... I loved that show.

I thought about it myself, actually...

i have a question, why is his death/existance so important?!

Dont invest in shit planes, especially one that carries your president, problem solved. Don't disobey Air Traffic Controllers' orders and land when it's hazardous to do so, another problem solved.

ultra · #17i have a question, why is his death/existance so important?!

Why is the death of 87 of the Polish top politicians important? To you? Probably not, you can keep on living in your tiny little world. But to the Polish it's hugely important because they lost the people who they elected to lead their country. To the rest of us human beings it's important because we have something called compassion, we can see that something awful has happened to these people and we send our thoughts (fat load of good they'll do of course) to them.I cleaned this topic off. I cannot believe people would show such blatant disrespect for something like this. For some reason I deleted the posts before I could hand out warnings but I think severely less of a lot of people now.

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The plane had nothing to do with it, the pilot was most likely forced to attempt landing to keep the time schedule. So yeah, don't disobey the air traffic controller's orders.

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Seph, tens of thousands die everyday due to famine, why don't they deserve the same treatment as the Polish president and his cabinet. Biased imo.