Are furries comparable to paedophiles?

Calvin,I bet all youve got left to try is "watersports" and "humping corpses".

Lemme say one thing about furries and pedos, from what I've seen.Pedos actually HARM kids in order to make and sell child porn.Furries just DRAW whatever it is they wanna see done so it doesn't really hurt anyone. I think this chart from ED sums up what furs do pretty well.So, no, it's nothing to compare.Unless the furries are such sick fucks that they force kids or others to dress up in fursuits with them and screw them or something like that, just let em exist and leave em be.I actually see SOME furries more comparable to SOME gays and lesbians, as instead of just sitting down and doing what they wanna do, they have to announce to the world, "Hey! I'm a Furry so I'm important! look at me!" or "Hey! I'm gay/lesbian so I'm important! Look at me!" It's not like I'm running aound and saying "Hey! I'm straight so I'm important! Look at me!" - I personally despise those types of individuals.

markswanUntil about six months ago, I had no idea that being a "furry" was an inherently sexual thing; I just thought that it was just a hobby where people dress up as animals and go to parties and stuff @_+
I found out after I happened across some pictures of a cute girl dressed as a bunny wearing a butt plug whilst trawling one of the 4chan boards and tried to find moar. From reading your post, you're saying that bestiality is also normal for a "furry"? Some quick research tells me not; the general Web consensus on the definition of a "furry" (for what that's worth to you) is that they are people that have a fetish for anthropomorphic animals.
Equating them with paedophiles is ridiculous IMO; so long as they are consenting adults in a fit mental-state to make decisions and they don't harm anyone or force them to do anything against their will, they have as much right to indulge in their fetishes as anyone else has in any other sexual act that follows the necessary rules (of consent etc).What do you mean by "exposing" and "young people"? If you mean exposing their genitals to children; then no, of course they shouldn't. If you're taking about yourself, a young person who doesn't want to see "furry" things; stop looking. If you're old enough to take part in a debate on the Internet, you are old enough to take a degree of responsibility in the things that you expose yourself to online.EDITHow is it that you think that you've come to have such a deep knowledge of the furry community? Do you have any evidence to back up these claims at all?

You'd be surprised at some of the things their fandom comes up with, about 60 percent of it is anthropormorphic, in fact. You should also read my posts again, these people are in denial about their sexual preferences and the ones willing to admit they like the sexual side are only willing to admit so much. I'm sorry but I have really not met one single person who's been a 'furry' for longer than 3 months without getting in to the porn side of it.With the "It's your choice for exposing yourself to their faggotry" argument, do you really think I'd expose myself to something I didn't even know existed? Furries are like raging homosexuals with their persecution-complexes and their feel to expose themselves to people.I know about this because I used to go to the twokinds IRC because I liked the webcomics. This was a good 2/3 years ago, mind.

LittlekillWant to hear something even more disturbing?Furries -> Pedophiles -> Priests -> Pope -> Religion -> Christianity -> Jesus -> Jews -> 9/11Furries caused 9/11

Holy shit, lol.

v3Furries are much better than Pedophiles, imo.While being a furry might be a little daunting, people only see it as being a weird fetish, and being one doesn't equate into being an outcast or something similar. If you're a furry? Hey, it's all good, doesn't mean I'd want to be one, but I respect your decision in life. It's like being homosexual/goth/Scientologist/whatever.But being a Pedophile utterly destroys any credibility one might have before being exposed as one. Any good deeds and notable works you might have? All that is gone once they found out you were fondling an 11 year old girl (or boy) behind some bushes in an old house somewhere. If you're a pedophile? Get the hell out of my sight before I bring back axe murdering.

Would you trust a furry with a pet?
Would you trust a paedophile with a child?Just because furries aren't so dangerous to humans it doesn't mean they aren't a threat to something. I can't believe these people claim they care so much about animals but want to stick it in 'em when you're not looking.

calvin_0well I have been call both over the internet, i do enjoy furry and lolicon hentai, but i dont actually do them myself. i mean for animal, are you going to risk getting your you know what biten off? even they dont bite them off, there is no way you can fit it into them. plus real animal arent humanoid so they arent very attractive.Catgirl is hot, real cat isnt.
Lola bunny is hot, real rabbit isnt.same apply to real children, there is no way it could fit unless you want to hurt them and for a real pedophilia (pedophilia mean children lover in greek not sick adult who molest children) hurting them is the last thing they want.
also even i'm been call a pedophilia, i dont find Child Porn fun to watch, i actually find it pretty horrible (ya, i watched some of them, someone call the FBI and chris hansen)anyway, back to the question, i would say yes, as they are both fetish not that differ from BDSM and other fetish people have.

You're not really arguing against my point very well, are you? In fact, you're kind of proving it...

v3It all boils down to this, you're comparing a perfectly legal, yet not really accepted, form of fetish, to a morally wrong, very illegal sexual deviancy. I still can't see how you weigh these two equally.Furry = Sick and wrong, but safe in practice, and you don't get v&. Laughed by many, yet acceptable by some.
Pedophilia = Sick and very wrong, unsafe for the child, not acceptable in ANY circles, will get you hard time and will destroy your life. Not to mention a chance to get on NBC's Dateline for some props.

I'm pretty sure bestiality is illegal, too. They're both very sick things and these people should be registered sex offenders.

LoonylionNo, they are not comparable, and the first post makes a fallacy of assuming that all furries are into the sexual aspects of it, when actually only a minority are. Even within that minority, most have the restraint to refrain from attempting sexual interactions with real animals, and also in many cases would not approve of 'live' porn of such, because it is harmful to the animal, and the vast majority of furries find animal cruelty/abuse abhorrent. I know a number of furries and have done for years, none of them would even consider for an instant having sexual intercourse with an animal.As a furry myself, beastaility is not something I approve of, and the last person to accuse me of such to my face got his head kicked in. furries have a very strong (usually non-sexual) love of animals, and the vast majority of them would never do anything to cause harm or distress to an animal. Furries are the kind of people that would intervene if they saw an animal being abused, and very often they volunteer at animal sanctuaries. They work hard to develop a trusting relationship with animals based on mutual respect, and are extremely careful not to betray that trust. Some furries I know are able to walk among even the biggest and strongest predators, such as tigers and lions, without harm, because they have developed their relationship with those animals to the extent that the animals will tolerate their presence at close quarters, and in some cases even welcome them.I know one person who was actually invited by a tiger into their enclosure to witness her giving birth. The birth went wrong (a breach birth) and the person was forced to intervene to save the cub's life, and perhaps also the mother's. The mother was completely unsedated and but trusted that human sufficiently for him to be able to intervene and ensure that her cub was born alive. The human mused later that perhaps the mother knew something was wrong and wanted a human present for that reason.paedophiles, as defined by law, are sexual predators with a disregard for the welfare of their victims. They couldnt be more different.

I'll let you call what I say is a fallacy when you somehow explain those pictures that were on your photobucket.Now, attempting to take what you say seriously:The majority of furries are sexual deviants, openly a lot might not admit it but an anonymous poll would surely yield better results, and even then, a lot of them will be lying. I'd say a good 95 percent of people who have been furries over 6 months are somewhat involved in at least the hentai side of it. I honestly doubt any of your friends or you would admit to watching a dog have 'sex' with a woman. The whole furry fandom has a myriad of people with autism and aspergers and even most of them know it's not socially acceptable to admit watching bestiality.Assuming that's a typo, you seem to be living in a fantasy world. Somebody accused me, little Peter, of bestiality! I was appalled and angry so I let out the power of the lion within me and kicked his head! We furries are great! Some furries can live and walk with the highest of predators! Some furries have the utmost trust of dangerous and hostile animals! A furry even got requested by an animal to help it give birth! Oh the joys of the furry fandom!
Um... no. Do you even have any proof of these things happening? I asked people to take this debate seriously, not go in to tales of fiction...Hmm... Don't a lot of paedophiles love children, love working with children and even get jobs around children? Look at all these paedos getting caught who worked at daycares and stuff! A lot of paedos clam they wouldn't break a child's trust, either.

Replying to #42

Fantasists, attention whores and perverts.
Oh and look: "I wanna get laid! Gender and species are unimportant!"
You're not very good at arguing, are you? It's like you only see what you want to see, are you sure you're not furry?Hey, hey, try not to be homophobic but I do agree, these people are often attention whores.

calvin_0call me a moron or an idiot, but the literal meaning never come into my mind.

Honestly, if you can't understand the definition of "child porn" just by looking at the phrase, you're either unable to read and define it or unwilling to define it. I'm going to go with the second one.

Conrannex[tl:dr]

Oh look. Rem, of all people, calling others an attention whore.

Replying to #44

Try to stay on topic, you're drawing attention to yourself, you're not even contributing to the thread.
I don't see how you have the audacity of calling someone an attention whore when your post is irrelevant and unneeded...

ConrannexI'll let you call what I say is a fallacy when you somehow explain those pictures that were on your photobucket. Assuming that's a typo, you seem to be living in a fantasy world. Somebody accused me, little Peter, of bestiality! I was appalled and angry so I let out the power of the lion within me and kicked his head! We furries are great! Some furries can live and walk with the highest of predators! Some furries have the utmost trust of dangerous and hostile animals! A furry even got requested by an animal to help it give birth! Oh the joys of the furry fandom!
Um... no. Do you even have any proof of these things happening? I asked people to take this debate seriously, not go in to tales of fiction...

and what pictures might those be?there were about 20 other people in the room who would attest to the fact that I almost hospitalised him, and would have done if they hadn't intervened. I have never lost my temper that badly at any other point in my life, and quite frankly hope I never do again.The guy who got invited into the tiger's enclosure is someone I know through my membership of an animal sanctuary that rescues abused animals and 'exotic pets'. he had been volunteering at the sanctuary for many years and that is how he developed such a trust with the animals there. Call it what you like, the fact remains that if he and his fellow volunteers had not had the trust of the mother tiger to the extent they did, the cub would have died and the mother could have as well. The wild population of tigers is in such a critical condition that extinction is almost a certainty and in that event it will be necessary to use the captive population to reintroduce them. The saving of those two lives has helped maintain the diversity of the gene pool, increasing the chances of a future reintroduced population surviving and breeding.You are a very bitter and prejudiced young man.

Conrannex · #45Try to stay on topic, you're drawing attention to yourself, you're not even contributing to the thread.
I don't see how you have the audacity of calling someone an attention whore when your post is irrelevant and unneeded...

Posting =/= being an attention whore
I was replying to Calvin's post (who apparently wants to be called a moron) and your post.Anyway, to be on topic (never mind the actual off topic posts) many furries would argue that furry =/= zoopheliac.
So I would think to answer would be that furries are more comparable to loli/shota fans.
Like was said, they're unable/unwilling to watch more "real" versions of their immoral fetishes.
Zoopheliacs, on the other hand are comparable to pedophiles in that they both practice sick, immoral and illegal things.

Loonylion · #46and what pictures might those be?there were about 20 other people in the room who would attest to the fact that I almost hospitalised him, and would have done if they hadn't intervened. I have never lost my temper that badly at any other point in my life, and quite frankly hope I never do again.The guy who got invited into the tiger's enclosure is someone I know through my membership of an animal sanctuary that rescues abused animals and 'exotic pets'. he had been volunteering at the sanctuary for many years and that is how he developed such a trust with the animals there. Call it what you like, the fact remains that if he and his fellow volunteers had not had the trust of the mother tiger to the extent they did, the cub would have died and the mother could have as well. The wild population of tigers is in such a critical condition that extinction is almost a certainty and in that event it will be necessary to use the captive population to reintroduce them. The saving of those two lives has helped maintain the diversity of the gene pool, increasing the chances of a future reintroduced population surviving and breeding.You are a very bitter and prejudiced young man.

You with a giant tiger plush in your underwear with a wet patch on your crotch.
A picture of the young female tiger character from the lion king in an odd position.
etcI don't believe it. It's gone from a tiger inviting a guy to watch it give birth and there was an issue so he had to intervene in to you pointing out common knowledge about tigers and then coming up with some story about some heroic animal sanctuary guy saving the lives of two tigers and saving the gene diversity to tigers!That's a sweet story and all but it's kind of irrelevant.

Replying to #47

Bingo!
However there's often a thin-line between the two extremes.

Replying to #48

if you can't tell the difference between pajamas and underwear you have issues. But then it's quite clear you have issues anyway.What doesn't constitute an 'odd' position for a plushie? they're inherently floppy and don't hold stiff positions like living beings do. Try seeing how stiff you are without a skeleton. I'm surprised I'm having to explain this to someone of your age.go back to school and come back when you understand the importance of genetic diversity in a species and how it is relevant to conservation.

Replying to #49

Nice reading comprehension, bub.
I didn't say the plush was in an odd position.
Those must be some pretty thin PJs, wet-patch.Yes, yes, Loony, we get it, furries are heroes. You happy now? Or do you want to go further off topic?

Replying to #50

You're delusional then because there are no pictures of me with a lion king plushie on my photobucket. Would you like me to call the men in white coats to give you your meds?

There is no comparison. Anyone that loves and really cares for animals is considered a furry. There does NOT have to be anything sexual involved. Learn to do research before you make comparisons to shit that can't be compared./topic

I can't really view this as an "appropriate" topic to discuss here for a variety of reasons.Locked.