What is light, without darkness?

I was thinking the other day, you can't have light, without darkness to overpower.There will always be darkness inside light, and there will always be light inside darkness.You can't see a torches light on a sunny day, yet you can see it clearly on a dark night.

Hmmmm.... fairly paradoxial, never mind if it sounds contradictory or weird or just plain stupid. That's how I interpret it.

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It hurts my head just thinking about it 0.0

Light is electromagnetic radiation, with or without darkness. Whether or not humans can perceive it doesn't change this fact.If you want to get philosophical, it's better to use more abstract terms. For example, you could say that hope is the absence of despair or vice versa. However, this is still a case of counter-definition, which is somewhat tautological, but that's often the nature of antonyms for you. See also: Newspeak, from George Orwell's 1984.So perhaps it would be better to make a more specific argument in regards to abstract concepts. To continue the previous example, one could argue that "it takes true despair to realise true hope" and/or vice versa, or something to this effect.PS: Consider yourself lucky that I decided not to bother with the physics of the initial premise ;)

tehuber1337Light is electromagnetic radiation, with or without darkness. Whether or not humans can perceive it doesn't change this fact.If you want to get philosophical, it's better to use more abstract terms. For example, you could say that hope is the absence of despair or vice versa. However, this is still a case of counter-definition, which is somewhat tautological, but that's the nature of antonyms for you. See also: Newspeak, from George Orwell's 1984.So perhaps it would be better to make a more specific argument in regards to abstract concepts. To continue the previous example, one could argue that "it takes true despair to realise true hope" and/or vice versa, or something to this effect.PS: Consider yourself lucky that I decided not to bother with the physics of the initial premise ;)

I wasn't trying to get philosophical, I was just saying, there will always be darkness in light..... Like.... Shadows?

It sounds like your trying to sound smart. That "paradox" is just retarded.

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If I was trying to sound smart, I would have added words with 26 letters >.>

tehuber1337 · #4Light is electromagnetic radiation, with or without darkness. Whether or not humans can perceive it doesn't change this fact.If you want to get philosophical, it's better to use more abstract terms. For example, you could say that hope is the absence of despair or vice versa. However, this is still a case of counter-definition, which is somewhat tautological, but that's often the nature of antonyms for you. See also: Newspeak, from George Orwell's 1984.So perhaps it would be better to make a more specific argument in regards to abstract concepts. To continue the previous example, one could argue that "it takes true despair to realise true hope" and/or vice versa, or something to this effect.PS: Consider yourself lucky that I decided not to bother with the physics of the initial premise ;)

For the sake of good reading, please post the physics of the matter, while I may not understand it...well maybe I will I don't know, need something to think about...

corprlfish · #1I was thinking the other day, you can't have light, without darkness to overpower.There will always be darkness inside light, and there will always be light inside darkness.You can't see a torches light on a sunny day, yet you can see it clearly on a dark night.

Kill the sun and darkness will freeze us to death, take away the darkness and ethier sleep deprivation or the fact we'd all burn to death would.With a balance of both, it'll only delay what will come later on via old age/crap luck/stupidity.

hYpNoSFor the sake of good reading, please post the physics of the matter, while I may not understand it...well maybe I will I don't know, need something to think about...Kill the sun and darkness will freeze us to death, take away the darkness and ethier sleep deprivation or the fact we'd all burn to death would.With a balance of both, it'll only delay what will come later on via old age/crap luck/stupidity/ninjas.

And ninjas.... Ninjas like to fuck shit up >=)

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Ninjas just use the darkness to bring foolish mortals to certain doom, after all guns blazing doesn't always work.Though even if a ninja is spotted thanks to some light, they'd snuff it out or just run away to strike back later.

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Leave it to hypnos to find a way to make ninjas relevant to the topic at hand ^.^
lolz

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Lol is light, stfu is dark.You lol at darkness, it'll tell you to stfu, if you say STFU to light, it'll lol at you.
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corprlfish · #5I wasn't trying to get philosophical, I was just saying, there will always be darkness in light..... Like.... Shadows?

Well, if that's the way you want to play it...

corprlfish · #1I was thinking the other day, you can't have light, without darkness to overpower.There will always be darkness inside light, and there will always be light inside darkness.

EDIT: This isn't going to work. Light is a physical thing, whereas darkness is an abstract term referring to something being less illuminated than something else. I'd rather not get into semantical tautology here, but you can't achieve much more than a very superficial level of "correctness" by comparing the two terms like this.

corprlfish · #1You can't see a torches light on a sunny day, yet you can see it clearly on a dark night.

This doesn't mean the torchlight isn't there during the day, it just means the torchlight is overpowered by sunlight.Anyway, my point is that the paradox only holds true within a (very limited) human-subjective scope./thread

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Yes, but you can't have light without darkness, just like you can't have water without 2 part hydrogen and one part oxygen, or you can't have fire without heat, fuel and air.

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Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that the sunlight perfectly illuminates everything and all shadows have been dispelled. The torch still emits light of its own, no? Even if there's no darkness to visibly illuminate, the light is there. Even you, holding the torch, emit heat and other forms of electromagnetic radiation, invisible though it may be.

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Hmmmmmmmmm.... You have a good point.

Light is evil Light is Kira. :P
Ryuk might be the reference to dark.

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corprlfishWhat is light, without darkness?

Light and darkness is dependent on each other, without light, one will never know what is darkness and vice versa.light and darkness wasnt the only dependancy around us, there is left and right, male and female, up and down, winner and losser.

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Hot and cold, white and black.