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http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/12/09/2010-12-09_911_health_bill_fails_first_test_senate_republicans_filibuster_measure_in_5742_v.html
So basically, this is a bill that would help people who got sick when they responded to the tragic events on 9/11/2001.
But for Senate Republicans, people who are sick because they helped the country, are not as important as rich people who might get a slight tax increase.
So every single Republican has vowed to not allow any bill to pass until their corporate masters get their money.
Well,what is your opinion on this?
I know there are a few American conservatives on this board, so i would really like to know how the hell do you make this fit your belief that republicans are for the middle class?
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Well republicans are power hungry, so when the bill was filibustered they are willing to get more off of the general population than what they already get paid for doing. They are never up for the other classes as we all know that once the official recieves his seat in office the individual is entitled to do whatever he pleases by smooth talking.
The only reason that they did not pass the bill was because of them
not wanting to get taxed in the first place, which takes a butt load off their salaries. Politicians recieve way more money than any of us ordinary people will ever get. Their wages are what...around the six digit numbers. Before any of those republicans get a tax cut, their wages are the only thing that makes them become conservative...
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If i understand what you are saying, it is that the reason Republicans want the tax cuts is for their own interest?
As in, so their own tax cuts won't increase?
Well, the Dems want(ed) to allow them to expire only for households making over $250,000/year.
That wouldn't apply to most Senators since they only make around
$174,000/year.
I don't think it's so much about the money coming out of their own pockets, but rather out of the pockets of the corporations that pay for their elections.
I do agree with you on the smooth talking though.
Republicans know how to make the middle class vote against their own self interests.
Just talk about Jesus and patriotism, and bam, the American People will follow you to the ditch.
On the other hand, the Dems suck at this, and it's just sad to watch them as they attempt to convey any message to the public.
They will bend over backwards to try and make the people like them.Bend over so much, that they usually just fall on the floor, everyone laughs at them, and end up taking the Republicans side.
Effin pathetic, i tell you.
All republicans do is scream 'communist' or 'socialist' at anything that will actually benefit the country. They don't even know what the fucking words mean.
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Oh they know.
They know the words mean fear.
And that's exactly what they want to use them for.
It's the people who have no idea, and the Republicans take advantage of this.
It just boggles my mind how come the people don't find it strange that Repubs are now ready to "compromise" with the most evil communist muslim nazi president this nation has ever seen.
Don't they find it a bit odd?
Replying to #5
Obama is not Muslim, Communist or Nazi. Thank you for illustrating the point I made in my previous post.
Oteupaiecona · #5Don't they find it a bit odd?
No, they are idiots. These are the people who voted in Bush, twice, who happens to be the epitome of stupid. I can't believe there isn't more backlash over this, it's disgusting how you, the american populous, allow the republicans to act.
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He was being sarcastic...
Oteupaiecona · #3Just talk about Jesus and patriotism, and bam, the American People will follow you to the ditch.
I hit on this in another thread, I think it was the paper recycling thread. None of you americans bit though.
We have something similar in the UK, just talk human rights and morals and the British people will follow you to the ditch.
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It's not quite the same thing, the british don't get a choice. Americans choose to be republican.
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How do we not get a choice?
you could be a democrat? All three major political parties in britain have exactly the same policies and agendas.
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nex26 · #7No, they are idiots. These are the people who voted in Bush, twice, who happens to be the epitome of stupid. I can't believe there isn't more backlash over this, it's disgusting how you, the american populous, allow the republicans to act.
Well, there's not much the other half of us can do.
I mean, you have to understand, this is the nation of creationists.
They have a friggin museum that shows you how Adam and Eve lived with (then Herbivorous) T-Rex.
There's no knocking sense into people like that.
nex26 · #7He was being sarcastic...
Thank you.
msg2009 · #8I hit on this in another thread, I think it was the paper recycling thread. None of you americans bit though.
I'll have to take a second look at your posts, lol.
msg2009 · #8We have something similar in the UK, just talk human rights and morals and the British people will follow you to the ditch.
Isn't it you guys that allow Sharia courts for Muslims?
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'allow' isn't the right word. 'turn a blind eye to' is more appropriate. Sharia courts are not recognised in UK law, but their existance is ignored/covered up even though they are not legal in this country. Likewise, bigamy is illegal but when it's a muslim involved the law gets ignored.
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Wow.
Yeah, i find that is taking human rights a bit too far.
It's actually more about freedom of religion, i would guess.
But still, it affects others human rights.
human rights are what is killing this country. They're applied far too liberally in cases where they shouldnt be and ignored when they should be enforced. Criminals have more rights than victims in the UK. Its only a matter of time before sending people to jail becomes a breach of their human rights.In the case of muslims, they're allowed to scream abuse at our troops and burn our sacred symbol of remembrance, but if you so much as tell them to shut up you're arrested for inciting racial hatred.Any crime where an ethnic is the victim is a racially motivated crime, if the victim is white and the perpetrator ethnic, then its not racial and the white is at fault.
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It's like you guys have too much of what we lack, and vice-versa.
There is more foreigners than ever now and were letting in thousands more every week even though there is no jobs and no houses and the government cant afford to support them.
Its their right though, so we just have to sit back and watch the country crash. We hand out free money and council houses houses to anyone entering the country so theres no wonder were overrun, I don't blame them one bit. Its only the equivalent of me moving abroad for better prospects.
There becomes a point when rights have to be ignored or changed, for the good of the entire country.
Just heard on the radio there is 250,000 unemployed just in Yorkshire where I live.
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Yeah, i guess every country has their own problems, and their own idiots.
Still, based on what i read over the interwebs, i think Norway or Sweden are good places to live.
And here in the American Continent,i bet Canada would take the cake.
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Ive been to Norway, its mega expensive, and mega cold. I hear sweden is much the same, I was talking about this earlier on another forum with a swede.
Oteupaiecona · #18Still, based on what i read over the interwebs, i think Norway or Sweden are good places to live.
And here in the American Continent,i bet Canada would take the cake.
There's actually a list of the best countries to live in sorted from best to worst, and all the scandanavian countries are pretty near the top
