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RomU and NDS and time

1prinnydoodOP
#1
This is a rant and an appeal.
Romulation is now not my first place to get new DS games anymore as other sites are quicker to update. 6 months ago RomU mostly beat those sites who post fast DS games, today RomU has become a joke on updates(too little trust of too little staff)
People pay for RomU, for some that means a direct payment, others may donate(i do not know how all the money works) RomU was never about DS games and RomU is a wonderful place to chat about games, both Seph and Loony are fantastic to chat with. (there is allot of deserving good will in RomU but no excuse for lazy reporting of new titles). Why does Seph an Loony still ask for cash when a free info/ free (and faster) download system exists?
Is RomU a leach on other boards when it come to DS games?Big Question,to RomU staff, do you have any idea how much traffic and influence you loose by not hosting DSi patched roms......and is RomU's cash for crap system dead?My prediction is, RomU is currently not viable, this site will fold by March and another site ( which I will not name) will gain traffic as they host patched DSI games as standard.
The idea that DSi games woud never be hosted on RomU was silly and is now stupid.You can cream a few more quid from the suckers before they not only realise it was all free to begin with but your value added service sucks balls.
Loonylion
#2
When did we say we're never going to host DSi roms? We're not hosting them until they are properly dumped. Once that hurdle is over then yes we will host them.RomU is currently slow to update because Seph is on vacation and I don't have the same sources that he does. he gets them from higher up the chain than I can.We still ask for cash because, believe it or not, we still have to pay $4k a month to run the site. That is what makes RomUlation viable when other 'free' sites are not. We're not going anywhere, no matter what you may think.
1prinnydoodOP
#3

Replying to #2

There is only one pure DSi rom, I doubt many care if you host it or not. I would assume that the idea to not host DS enhanced games was taken by Seph and he now needs to wind his neck in and admit that emulation and flash cards have outwitted him.I can understand why you ask for cash, it is very difficult to wind down a failing cash crop. Honesty is real difflicult when your old rom collection is available elsewhere for free and your new entries are given faster on free servers....Givien the source, would you not admit that you have to wait much longer to relase a new title , than say 1 year ago?Post Merge: [time]1264395414[/time]

Replying to #2

LOLDo those that pay, do so for your wonderful quips and excuses?I do love you guys and i hate to post such obvious things, but you battle and you may find that some of your forum mods may encourage some to pay. Your content is old and not worth a penny. You do have some stars in your forum that are worth allot; feed them.I love the people within RomU more than the service of RomU. When the peps of your server become bigger than you, you gotta ask what did we miss?
tehuber1337
#4

Replying to #3

This is a joke, right? Or at the very least, a comparison for the sake of exaggeration.
Natewlie
#5

Replying to #4

He said that because you and I make the community so much better.
sexywogboy
#7
What a waste of a thread. It seems to me that 1prinnydood is sad that there are no DSi ROM's here.Just be happy there is a site like Romulation that not only host their own DS uploads, but also have a half sane community. You don't like it? As you said, there are "better" places out there.
Suiseiseki
#8
1) Of course RomU leeches off other people, who the fuck do you think Bahamut and Xenophobia are? Independent ROM dumpers.2) Premium's a better way than living off donations like G-M used to, money-wise. People like something a bit tangible for their money, but yeah, it's still in essence a donation. Dunno if you've ever run a massive site operation like this, but server costs are pretty fucking huge when you get into terabytes of data being moved on a regular basis. I doubt you've actually taken the time to discuss with anybody the workings of this place and viewed the traffic logs. Not to mention Seph is kind of living off the proceeds of this place. Ads just don't cut it with our userbase.3) RomU was never about DS games? Wat? This place is about emulation, and for the record Seph has said on IRC that he gives less of a fuck about this forum than he does the main site.4) The reporting of new titles is (I believe) the domain of the new folk on the staff (used to be Koniferus, but he's taking communal showers for counterfeiting). They'll get better over time, like any staff member.
1prinnydood · #1Big Question,to RomU staff, do you have any idea how much traffic and influence you loose by not hosting DSi patched roms
Riposte: Know how much traffic and influence they gain by having near-complete libraries that don't flood your PC with spyware or your browser with ads?All that aside, I find this thread incredibly amusing. First of all because it still exists (although if your argument wasn't so fucking terrible it might not), secondly because you claim to like the inhabitants of this site when the vast majority are complete imbeciles, thirdly because you've actually made a stand against the staff on your beliefs (however retarded your accusations and assumptions are), and finally because you've meandered into "oh god, RomU makes lots of money for Seph, we're all being played" territory. Welcome to the club, mi amigo, that's old news.tl;dr I agree with Raysie (!!!), you've always got the option of buggering off.
sylar1000
#9
This topic is awesome, mainly for the fact that your complaining about a site that let's you download illegal roms.The phrase "Don't Bite The Hand That Feeds You" seems to work somewhat well here. Also, like others have said, Romu costs money to run, that money has to come from somewhere, through ads, premium services, etc. Romu doesn't leech roms from other places, when they are found they are uploaded onto the servers.Not everyone donates or even buys premium on Romu.
Loonylion
#10
Considering our traffic increases month on month, I really don't see that we're losing that much from not having DSi roms at this time. We averaged over 3.2 million unique visitors a month last year, one person or even 500 people taking offense because we don't host DSi roms isnt going to make a whole lot of difference.Why the personal attacks against Seph? At the time the decision was made, DSi enhanced games were playable on a few high end DS carts and not on DSi carts, or playable on DSi carts but without the DSi enhanced features. That may or may not still be the case, if it is then we still aren't going to host DSi enhanced roms, if it isn't still the case then we will review the situation when Seph returns from vacation. There is no 'outwitting' involved, we simply have no wish to host incomplete roms.RomUlation is not failing, no matter how much you delude yourself that it is. In fact, I would go so far as to say its never been this healthy. We're even planning a bandwith upgrade.
Suiseiseki
#11
Let's be honest, it's a mixture of his butthurt about lack of DSi ROMs when he wants them and him finally realising that this is a business and not run by the users.
1prinnydoodOP
#12
Sorry for being a little late on my follow up to all your comments.
tehuber1337 · #4This is a joke, right? Or at the very least, a comparison for the sake of exaggeration.
Not at all, most posts on RomU have little value to the reader, however those posts are fun, and it is great that this weird world on RomU exists where people can mess about and at the same time in other sections of the forum people can produce very well informed opinions on various topics from the sublime to the inane, with a healthy dose of the insane. I love your posts tehuber as you are brutal and cutting, but never unfair.
Natewlie · #5He said that because you and I make the community so much better.
Natewlie you do make the community better because you are so feckin well informed on the subjects you post.There are not shed loads of people who regularly post on RomU's forums who I rate as great posters with interesting things to say, but I will say with total conviction that RomU hosts some of the best non-industry comments on gaming(few and far between they may be) and also provides a unique platform for those inclined to compile some of the best impersonal lists of forthcoming games, RomU does all this and has a lively debate section to boot. This is not only admirable but quite unique.

Replying to #11

Suiseiseki, RomU does not exist in isolation, personally it does not matter to me one iota if RomU does or does not host DSi dumps and I have no desire to see some bizarre user revolution overtaking the amazing job that Seph, Loony, Patton and.........do.So, back to my original moan...
I brought up two issues:Firstly that the posting of new DS game has slowed in the past 6 months or so; a tad unfair of me and 6 months was more or less pulled out of my ass but a basic Usenet account alt.binblah.blah, blah blah tells me that RomU is slower in posting new DS roms, you may say so what? My open alt.binblahs.blahblahblah are not Seph's secret scene source, the one he will not even entrust Loony a password to.
To hell with democracy there is business to be done but when I look at some of the Usenet postings and the time stamp on them I wonder why the heck access to those scene and non-scene releases are not more available to those who regularly post sensibly(unlike myself) and take an ongoing and genuine interest in the fresh DS scene?Secondly that DS enhanced(DSi) games should have been included on RomU as soon as the core game could be emulated or ran by flash cards. As Loony pointed out RomU has a massive unique hit count, I would imagine that many newspapers would drool at the thought of such numbers. I would not doubt that RomU's unique hit count will continue to rise, and I am under no illusion that such impressive figures can attract impressive revenue.
On the surface it may seem a little silly of me to suggest that not hosting the DSi enhanced games will lead to a lack of influence for RomU and ultimately a mass exodus from RomU. I should have made it clear that the mass exodus and 'be dead by March' statements purely relate to the bit of RomU that does not make any money and that's the hosting of games. I will not deny that RomU provides excellent bandwidth and superb Rom hosting, even to serfs like myself. RomU has an excellent back catalog of Roms but as RomU has taken the unusual step of hosting games in a very live system, the NDS, it is odd that a policy was decided not to continue to host DS games which have a DS(enhanced)i part to them. A point of reference is to consider that some games hosted on RomU will not native run on any given emulatorAs time goes on these DS enhanced or DSi games will become more prevalent, even though as most who have been following the evolution of the DS care little for the enhanced(i) aspects and just want to play the game regardless of, for example camera based personalisation. I do understand why a collector of pure Roms would not want to see the current playable dumps of DS enhanced(i) games.
I thought RomU was about trying things out before you pay or getting a chance to play some odd game you never would have a chance to access?
I figure DS(enhanced)i games fit that idea well.
There is no question that RomU is loosing downloads to other sites that host these mutant DS games and I have no doubt that currently very few people care too much but, when your back catalogue of playable emulative games looks like swiss cheese to the casual observer then you may have a problem.
There are a hell of a lot DS enhanced games releasing during February through to end of March. Many of them may not be overly exciting titles for the informed DS user but for every working DS enhanced title RomU does not host there will be a Mom or Dad out there who will find another source for that Princess Dick-Wad game that few care for but that's one or two users that will multiply and multiply as RomU's playable DS catalogue shrinks.@Loonylion, I did not make a personal attack against Seph, I said I thought his decision was wrong, if pressed I honestly would find it difficult to personally attack him. I think I would have to know the guy before I even attempted to do that, but to appease your senses I will say that due to your revelation that he does not trust even you with his masonic Rom source he is at least a megalomanic lion humping queen.
Suiseiseki
#13

Replying to #12

Apparently you do care, considering the lack of hosted DSi dumps seems to be what you're bitching about.

Replying to #12

Aw, come on. It'll be fun!

Replying to #12

Personal attacks on Seph are so fucking easy I do it without trying. I do like yours, though, it made me laugh.ADDENDUM: In before prinnydood gets banhammered into oblivion. Potshots at Seph and remarks about sexual acts with lions are like juggling chainsaws; awesome to watch, but ultimately lethal. Believe me, I've been there.
Littlekill
#14
wow, thats a wall of text
will1008
#15
Not all people have DSi's you know. It sucks if only 2/5 people in RomUlation download DSi ROMS. If Seph will host DSi ROMS, he MAY get the raw end of the deal.
mds64
#16
sexywogboy · #7What a waste of a thread. It seems to me that 1prinnydood is sad that there are no DSi ROM's here.Just be happy there is a site like Romulation that not only host their own DS uploads, but also have a half sane community. You don't like it? As you said, there are "better" places out there.
I'd say raysie hit this on the head, most of the rant is about dsi roms.Sure I find it annoying that the games stop when seph does, I am surprised that someone else can't do something in his absence...but everything else is fine.DSi roms haven't worked 100% yet, dsi functions...yes for some just stupid unessacry parental controls, are nessacary for full, complete roms for the enthusist.And yes...we have a half sane community here, something I'm proud of :)The fact is, if you don't like paying, don't, I don't pay for membership here (mainly because of it not helping me since I have unstable internet...)There are other places you can go prinny if you don't like it here, if you can't wait for games then you might as well go, I don't even download as much as I used to.I still buy the latest releases, otherwise I ebay hunt for classics :)Post Merge: [time]1264919354[/time]
Littlekill · #14wow, thats a wall of text
Yeah I went blind from most of it :(
gaynorvader
#17
Who the hell wants DSi games anyways? They're all new so go buy them instead of expecting them for free. Pirating new games is foolish as too many pirating leads developers away from making games or to put severely irritating copyright protection on them.
garychencool
#18
Loonylion · #2When did we say we're never going to host DSi roms? We're not hosting them until they are properly dumped. Once that hurdle is over then yes we will host them.RomU is currently slow to update because Seph is on vacation and I don't have the same sources that he does. he gets them from higher up the chain than I can.We still ask for cash because, believe it or not, we still have to pay $4k a month to run the site. That is what makes RomUlation viable when other 'free' sites are not. We're not going anywhere, no matter what you may think.
Whoa? Are you serious? $4000 a month to run this site? What makes up 4 grand in your monthly spending on RomU?
Loonylion
#20
bandwidth, servers, power, rackspace. None of it comes cheap.
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