RE: Fake R4

Following from cjdogger post about fake R4's, does anyone have any other pictures for examples of fakes,I dont know if mine is fake or not, it is a NDSL R4 it says "new edition" in the top right.it apparently also supports 4gb sdhc cards.Is this a fake? and will it harm my ds, because I've had it for a month now and every game has worked, no trouble.Thanks and leave your thoughts.Ps And it was bought of Amazon.co.uk

sounds fake to me I'm afraid.

Yeah it's fake. I have one exactly like it. Fortunately, it's worked fine for me for a few months too, and it hasn't done damage to my DS, so you should be fine.

n0thealthyso no it won't do damage to your DS.

The fact that it hasn't yet is no indication that it won't. It is a lot more likely to than the real R4.

Replying to #4

Yeah, I edited my post. But, to be honest, I think the whole "fake R4 will brick your DS" is nothing more than scaremongering.Feel free to prove me wrong. ;D

N5 has bricked a fair number of DS units.

Replying to #6

I'm talking about the R4 SDHC, which as far as i know, hasn't bricked any.

By bricking, i assume it means to destroy your Ds software, making it useless and a brick?

not exactly, it causes hardware damage by blowing a fuse somehow. If you subsequently replace the fuse the DS should work again.

Bricking could also mean screwing up the firmware of the DS, making it unable to turn on. Or perhaps it could turn on but not do anything.

the firmware should be in ROM and thus unalterable...

One sure fire sign it's a fake is that it supports SDHC, any legitimate revision of the R4 won't, and considering they don't seem to be doing anything these days the R4 team probably won't ever end up making a version of the R4 that does support it.

Replying to #11

Not totally true, the early DSes could be firmware bricked.

Nintendo DSThere are two trojans (DS brick A and B), similar to PSP Brick, that can brick the Nintendo DS.[6] Like the PSP, the Nintendo DS can be bricked by a trojan or botched firmware update. However, the danger is reduced for a number of reasons: * No firmware updates have yet been issued by Nintendo (however they have mentioned the possibility of using the Wii to send an official firmware update to a DS.[citation needed]) Although multiple firmware versions exist, there is no need for official procedure to install a new version; the updates are generally very minor. A major reason to install new firmware is for homebrew purposes. * There is currently no known method for malicious software to infect a Nintendo DS without the user's knowledge. The only way a trojan could be run is for the user to be tricked into running it.[citation needed] * The Nintendo DS contains a protection system which prevents important parts of the firmware from being overwritten unless a hardware switch is activated, such as the SL1 port covered by the red and white sticker under the battery cover. Removing this sticker and shorting this port considers your warranty null and void. Early DSes protected the first 25% of the firmware; while this was unfortunately not enough to prevent official firmware from being destroyed, all homebrew firmware (including FlashMe) places a simple recovery routine in this area. Newer DSes protect all but the last few sectors where the user settings are stored, and thus FlashMe is not required.[citation needed]

Thanks for all your posts and information, i am ordering a new R4 for my girlfriends brother so i willl avoid this one.

Bricking can mean that the actual firmware of the DS is f'ed up and can't work, making it useless. Returning it to Nintendo with no real reason is pretty suspicious.