Pokemon HGSS - Defeating Red - No AR (Retail Version) [2 DS'S NEEDED]

Pokemon HeartGold/Soulsilver - Beating RedThis is my method on how to beat Red on the retail version of HGSS without having to buy Action Replay!You need: 2 DS's, Retail Version of HGSS and a Flashcard (Edge/R4 work best.)First, activate the Wild Pokemon Modifier to catch the Pokemon listed here. (must all be level 100.) Trade them to the retail version.Charizard, Gallade, Donphan, Blastoise, Pikachu, Venusaur
Use Pokesav on your save file to make Charizard learn Blast Burn, Blastoise, Hydro Cannon, and Venusaur, Frenzy Plant.Here is the Wild Pokemon Modifier code.
:Battle The Pokemon You Want
::[L+R] You get 493 Master Ball and 100 Hyper Ball then Hold L for Encounter
:::Master Ball Equal to PKMN Index Number, Hyper Ball equal to PKMN level ! Discard the quantity you desired to meet repsective PKMN and level. Hold L for Encounter
94000130 FEFF0000
62111880 00000000
B2111880 00000000
00000D14 01ED0001
00000D18 00640002
D2000000 00000000
94000130 FDFF0000
62111880 00000000
B2111880 00000000
DA000000 00000D16
C0000000 00000027
D7000000 00025A68
D2000000 00000000
94000130 FDFF0000
62111880 00000000
B2111880 00000000
DB000000 00000D1A
C0000000 0000000B
D8000000 00025A5C
D2000000 00000000Then, put Donphan at the front of your party.
*BRING SOME FULL RESTORES BECAUSE THEY CAN ACTUALLY FAINT! THE POKEMON WILL BE IN A RANDOM ORDER BUT PIKACHU IS ALWAYS FIRST!*
After obtaining all 16 Badges, go to Mt. Silver and when you reach the area with no music, head north until you see a trainer. This is Red. He is like Ash in the anime and is a playable character in FireRed/Leafgreen. Talk to him.He will say:
.......................
.......................The battle will start with a unique variation of the start of a battle. It is the big Pokeball from the original GS games!He will start with Pikachu. It is Level 88 so use Donphan's Earthquake to bring it down.Next he will use Lapras. Use Pikachu's Electric moves for this. Lapras will go down sooner or later.Then he'll use Snorlax. Use Gallade's Close Combat to bring it down.Then he'll use Venusaur. Charizard's Blast Burn comes in handy here.Then he uses Charizard - use Blastoise's Hydro Cannon to bring 'em down!Finally he uses Blastoise - Venusaur's Frenzy Plant comes in handy now!Then the credits will roll and you'll be back in your room. Now you can get the Kanto/Hoenn Starters!
Hope this helps ^^

Couldn't you just level up your pokemon normally?

Yes but this is my way of doing it.

He's really not that difficult...
But have fun with your cheats. =]

This topic makes it sound like its impossible to beat Red normally,which I find funny.

Red's easier than Lance IMO... stupid Lance and his stupid dragons...

Why do you need 2 DS'

This is my method of this. It's not impossible because I actually beat him with this method.

...If you have a flashcard can't you just use Pokesav? This makes beating Red much more complicated than it has to be...

I beat red with two level 100 pokemon, and a couple level 60-70 pokemon.Arceus lvl 100 (Draco Plate) vs. everyone except Charizard and Lapras
Metagross vs. anyone except Charizard and Snorlax
Typhlosion vs. Venasaur
Lugia vs. Venasaur and Charixard
Wobuffet vs. Everyone
Hariyama vs. Snorlax and LaprasI usually sub Hariyama with Shaymin though. Can beat Lapras and Blastoise when not in Sky Form.These are all legit pokemon.

Andre, it clearly says Retail Version.

You say no AR, yet you're using a flashcart that is basically an AR...
Explain.You can take your save from a retail cart and modify it via Pokesav, modify it to a GOD'S liking, and then transfer it back.
That is the simplest way to do it as far as retail carts go. And you don't even need 2 DSes, just the retail cart, the flashcart, and a DS. This is what I was expecting for your method, but instead I got a huge string of codes. Smells like AR...This would be more useful as a thread on how to beat Red without using any cheats, and even that is next to useless since there's an infinite amount of ways to beat him. You don't even have to be the same level as him.I find it funny that you're resorting to both an AR AND Pokesav to beat him. Is he really that difficult? Just ironic.

Bah. Of course he's not that difficult. You don't even need to grind if you have enough Revives, Max Revives, Hyper Potions, etc., you just need to strategize. I'm not lying when I say I took him down with a team of five, with not a single Pokemon over Lv. 57. Yes, I used items like a whore, but I beat him, and I didn't exactly have to cheat either.For those curious, my strategy basically involved using Magneton to paralyze things and then beating things up by either exploiting actual weaknesses or just smacking them around a lot.(Red is still plenty harder than Lance, though. In my opinion, anyway. Both times Lance's team is riddled with double-weaknesses, so all you really need to do is exploit them with a team of reasonably powerful Pokemon.)

#1 You should post that you need AR and that this is for the retail version.
#2 Why would you trade and Pokesav pokemon on the flashcart to beat Red on the retail version, just beat him on the card.
#3 Who here has both retail and flashcard versions and actively plays them both?Guide for those without the retail.

dratinifirePokemon HeartGold/Soulsilver - Beating RedThis is my method on how to beat Red onYou need: A DS, a Flashcard that can use AR and the HG/SS Rom, with all 16 Gyms and the Elite Four defeated.First, activate the Wild Pokemon Modifier to catch the Pokemon listed here.
Charizard, Gallade, Donphan, Blastoise, Pikachu, Venusaur
Use Pokesav on your save file to make them all lvl 100 (include great moves, 255 EVs, Max Stats), have Charizard learn Blast Burn, Blastoise learn Hydro Cannon, Venusaur learn Frenzy Plant, Dophan learn Earthquake, Pikachu learn Volt Tackle and Thunder, and Gallade learn Close Combat. Make sure to use strong moves that kick butt against Red's pokemon.Here is the Wild Pokemon Modifier code.

:Battle The Pokemon You Want
::[L+R] You get 493 Master Ball and 100 Hyper Ball then Hold L for Encounter
:::Master Ball Equal to PKMN Index Number, Hyper Ball equal to PKMN level ! Discard the quantity you desired to meet repsective PKMN and level. Hold L for Encounter
94000130 FEFF0000
62111880 00000000
B2111880 00000000
00000D14 01ED0001
00000D18 00640002
D2000000 00000000
94000130 FDFF0000
62111880 00000000
B2111880 00000000
DA000000 00000D16
C0000000 00000027
D7000000 00025A68
D2000000 00000000
94000130 FDFF0000
62111880 00000000
B2111880 00000000
DB000000 00000D1A
C0000000 0000000B
D8000000 00025A5C
D2000000 00000000

Then, put Donphan at the front of your party.
*BRING SOME FULL RESTORES BECAUSE THEY CAN ACTUALLY FAINT! THE POKEMON WILL BE IN A RANDOM ORDER BUT PIKACHU IS ALWAYS FIRST!*
After obtaining all 16 Badges, go to Mt. Silver and when you reach the area with no music, head north until you see a trainer. This is Red. He is like Ash in the anime and is a playable character in FireRed/Leafgreen. Talk to him.He will say:
.......................
.......................The battle will start with a unique variation of the start of a battle. It is the big Pokeball from the original GS games!He will start with Pikachu. It is Level 88 so use Donphan's Earthquake to bring it down.Next he will use Lapras. Use Pikachu's Volt Tackle and Thunder for this. Lapras will go down sooner or later.Then he'll use Snorlax. Use Gallade's Close Combat to bring it down.Then he'll use Venusaur. Charizard's Blast Burn comes in handy here.Then he uses Charizard - use Blastoise's Hydro Cannon to bring 'em down!Finally he uses Blastoise - Venusaur's Frenzy Plant comes in handy now!Then the credits will roll and you'll be back in your room. Now you can get the Kanto/Hoenn Starters!
Hope this helps ^^

Replying to #14

Use pokesav from the very beginning and give yourself a Wonderguard Spiritomb.
Done.Even with retail, you can transfer save files back and forth from the cartridge to your computer, which then gives you free reign on using pokesav to your heart's content.The process described in the first post is harder than it has to be.
Oh, and the pokemon sent out are not in random order. They're sent out according to whatever can counter yours. For example, if I manage to kill his Pikachu with a Milotic, he will most likely send out Venusaur, not Charizard.

lol That works too.

I use both retail and flash... I have SS retail and HG on my flashcart... but I only played to Ilex forest so I can get the pichu using a pokesav'd pikachu colored pichu... then I'm trading them over. =]But, regardless, Red really isn't so difficult... Lance and I have never gotten along... I really hate dragons because I generally use fire types...

There's a way where you can set up a virtual GTS server which automatically downloads a .pkm file to your cart. I hear it works fine for people who aren't using a network as horrifically complex as my own (which is most people). Check on gbatemp, they've probably got it floating around somewhere. It's called "Sendpkm".

Hmm... I shall, that'll make it easier to get the event pokemon.

dratinifire · #11Andre, it clearly says Retail Version.

...If you have a flashcard...you could just....I dunno....Pokesav some pokemon and TRADE THEM OVER TO THE RETAIL VERSION.