Obama WINS!!

VoidI hope you die in a god damn fire. The racism was CLEARLY both ways, and blacks are a MINORITY. As loony stated, Obama obtained more white votes than McCain, and almost all of McCain's support came from the southern states, where racism is undeniably strong (move on, you confederate assholes!).

LOL!! I agree!!

Meh. I'm not so impressed by Obama - he strikes me as just another slick career politician.
Whether he is really an "agent of change", hmmm... I guess we'll see in the years to come.

darksynysterDon't say idiotic things, he is a hero. Any person that fights and risks his/her life for their country, gets captured and tortured for five years, comes back home and raises a family with his head held high is a hero. The reason Obama did not get captured is because he has not done anything. I'm not saying that McCain is better or worse, I'm just saying put yourself in his shoes. What would you have done?However, Obama won so hopefully he will do a good job.

Obama is like the one black guy who hasn't spent time in jail, and when the tables are turned you pull stuff like this? That was a joke, you sensitive people. Your only real argument in defense of McCain is that he was a prisoner of war, and that he's a hero. Does this suddenly qualify every other POW to run for president? If not, I'm a bit lost on your efforts.

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I was not addressing the issue if he would be a good president or not. If you would read correctly my post I was addressing the issue that you mentioned that he was not a hero, which he is.

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In England, fighting in a war does not make you a hero. Neither does crashing aircraft, or getting captured, or even being tortured. In England you actually have to earn the title. Standing on the edge of the German trenches throwing hand grenades at them because your men have run out of ammo makes you a hero. Going back for your wounded batman despite being injured yourself makes you a hero. Lying on a live grenade that's about to detonate in order to protect your patrol mates makes you a hero.

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I'm sure you do. However, we are talking about America here. We have different values I guess. For me, any person that risks his life for his country and for people he doesn't even know is a hero.

i dont think its good

Loonylion · #45In England, fighting in a war does not make you a hero. Neither does crashing aircraft, or getting captured, or even being tortured. In England you actually have to earn the title. Standing on the edge of the German trenches throwing hand grenades at them because your men have run out of ammo makes you a hero. Going back for your wounded batman despite being injured yourself makes you a hero. Lying on a live grenade that's about to detonate in order to protect your patrol mates makes you a hero.

Very true.No greater love can a man have than this, to lay down his life for his fellow man.

neither of those heros actually died (well the first one died of natural causes 4 years ago, but that was nothing to do with what he did in WWII) The guy who lay on a grenade surprisingly survived the explosion with very minor injuries.

McCain is God Barack Obama is a satan

mccain is the antichrist actually, he was planning to fuck stuff up even more. Rob the poor to feed the rich.

Those are harsh remarks right there, but seriously, does McCain really have such dubious plots at hand?As for the concept of a hero/ine, I believe everyone can be one, you don't need to go to war or kill terrorists & all that extreme examples. Just by being true to yourself & your beliefs & doing things that can help others is enough to be someones else's hero...OK, that sounded corny & all but I believe that.

Renji217 · #41LOL!! I agree!!

1- Fuck off Renji
2- http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Racism-In-Labour-Party-Would-Block-A-British-Barack-Obama-Says-Watchdog-Chief/Article/200811215147184 People are being racist to white people in the UK!
3- Again, my fecking point is that Black people are racist too and in many occasions more than Whites!
4- You have no valid points so STFU

Do not let this conversation turn into a flame war. If it does, I may need to lock this thread.Honestly, on the point of black people being racist, they never enslaved white people. They never segregated whites from themselves or made them sit in the back of their buses. And don't use the argument "pfft, third world countries don't have buses". Because that's racism. :P

in my opinion Obama and McCain are both very good people, but in the end i wanted Obama to win because of ending the war. the only problem i have is that i find that people get so hyped up about him..... he's gonna get alot of pressure. if people expect more of him then he has to be more careful to not make any mistakes. just one mistake can change someone's opinion greatly.

Born2killx · #54Do not let this conversation turn into a flame war. If it does, I may need to lock this thread.Honestly, on the point of black people being racist, they never enslaved white people. They never segregated whites from themselves or made them sit in the back of their buses. And don't use the argument "pfft, third world countries don't have buses". Because that's racism. :P

So you are going to bring things back from decades ago? The people who did that are about 70 and older, not many of them left either. And what about Malcolm X? He may have been angry but he went too far, like Hitler did..

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Are you serious? born2killx is trying to add balance to your stupidly racist-leaning argument. There are racist people from every ethnicity, but not all people from an ethnicity are racist. If you disagree with that, you are wrong, and me and you have a problem. Oh, and stop generalizing like you are, you're making me wanna cap a bitch. Kthx.

cjdogger · #56So you are going to bring things back from decades ago? The people who did that are about 70 and older, not many of them left either. And what about Malcolm X? He may have been angry but he went too far, like Hitler did..

Godwin's law. I'm just trying to prevent the argument from turning into a flame war.

Born2killx · #54Honestly, on the point of black people being racist, they never enslaved white people.

Actually, the Moors had white slaves.

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Ummm, weren't the Moors Muslim and of Arabian descent? They weren't really black, although I believe they had some interaction with North Africa. I believe what you're talking about is classic racist propaganda spawned by white supremacists, that has simply snowballed. Besides, their slaves were not slaved by race, really, and their slaves were just given the shitty jobs for the most part (low-rank military jobs, servants, stuff like that). They sure did have a lot of slaves though.I could be totally off though. Shot in the dark.