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Jailbreaking iPhone/iPod Touch, is it illegal or not?

mikeacOP
#1
Okay, I hate apple for what they think about the jailbreaking the iPod. It is not breaking the law, but it violates the EULA (End-User-License-Agreement) and voids your warranty.
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As with everything, there are some exceptions to this. If the system of unlocking or jailbreaking uses copyrighted code, then that would be illegal (violation of DMCA)... and that was the source of the big fuss over Nate True's jailbreaking method for firmware 1.1.3 (which has since been supplanted by legal methods). Also, while jailbreaking in and of itself isn't illegal, putting on Apple's additional apps from the January upgrade (Mail, Notes, Weather, Google Maps, and Stocks) without paying for them, is (obviously, this only refers to the iPod touch, since those apps are already on the iPhone). Putting on those apps without paying for them is piracy (in the same vein that downloading copyrighted music or movies without paying for them is piracy).Unlocking (iPhone only) for use on a carrier other than AT&T is also perfectly legal, so long as you are doing it for your own personal use. If you unlock for the purpose of selling that phone, then that would be illegal.Jailbreaking or unlocking might void your warranty, if future problems are potentially caused by the software. If your device suddenly starts coming unglued / falling apart... obviously that's a hardware issue, and would have occurred whether or not the device had been "hacked." But, if playback isn't working correctly, or other software issues crop up, Apple might say (correctly or not) that the issue is caused by the jailbreaking/unlocking and refuse service. Fortunately, for those of us with iPod touches, it's dead simple to restore to the default firmware and "unjailbreak" the device making it eligible for warranty service.
Hacking the iPod Touch is not illegal. While Apple would like to make you think it is illegal, it is not, and it is impossible to get in any legal trouble for hacking it. You and Apple made an exchange. You gave Apple $400 and they gave you an iPod. It is officially yours and you can do whatever you want with it.It is illegal to post copyrighted code, such as the operating system of the iPod Touch and the iPhone, on the Internet. But you won’t be doing that if you choose to hack your device.
This is a huge gray area to be honest. Although it may fall under DMCA, the EULA is NOT law. It's a license agreement - its saying that if you mess around with your product, they take not responsibility. And if you read the article on Wikipedia, you'd find that EULAs may or may not even be enforceable depending on your jurisdiction - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EULAI wouldn't worry about it though. You're not going to be arrested. Your iPod Touch is not going to be seized. You're not going to get a felony conviction or even a misdemeanor conviction. That is, of course, if you don't steal the Apple January apps. Then all bets are off...
Hell yeah. I think that what you do WITH the jailbreak is illegal. For example:
Emulators (gpSPhone, nes4iphone, snes4iphone)
Modifying firmware
Cracked Apps
Free copyrighted material (eBooks, movies, music, etc.)Here is a rebuttal:
The DMCA "...criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, even when there is no infringement of copyright itself." [Wikipedia] If you are jailbreaking a touch you are circumventing the access control (i.e., the device's lock-down) to be able to install 3rd party programs. Therefore, if you stickily follow that law, it is illegal. Enforcment of the DMCA has mostly been limited to people a) creating programs to curcumvent access control or b) hosting content that does. A user jailbreaking their touch has zero chance of seeing any repercussions from law enforcement.The copyright infringement piece is a whole other issue. Unauthorized distrobution of copyrighted is illegal. However, that does not mean that every eBook you download is illegal. Many items are no longer covered by copyright protection or never were. You need to take it on a case by case basis.
Not gonna post any more quotes, so here is an article: http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/02/apple-says-jailbreaking-illegal
MR4Y
#2
IMO, blocked phones are the worst thing you could ever buy. You payed for the freaking phone, it belongs to you.Also, why would Apple have a warranty void clausule in their EULA? They already force people to buy a new phone everytime they release a new one!
miros
#3
The great thing about the iPhone OS, which happens to be used in all "i" devices that are registered under Apple are open source. Meaning that you have the legal right to modify anything about the system you want.
mikeac · #1Hell yeah. I think that what you do WITH the jailbreak is illegal
That is exactly right. While there are nothing in terms of legalities that prevents people from hacking their iDevices, and even if there was I do not think that it would deter people from doing so, legal action could be taken on the hackers based on their use of the modded iDevice. This could include stealing trademarked apps using AppTracker, downloading ROMs and ISOs from Cydia, and even using Apps that can obtain free movies and music (ie. dTunes).
miros
Suiseiseki
#4
As far as I recall, the act of circumventing an access control being illegal was primarily to protect DRM-locked music and such.

Replying to #3

Wrong, iOS is proprietary software, the use of which is controlled by your agreement under Apple's EULA. It does incorporate some open-source components, but for the most part your use of the iPhone system is restricted, and as far as I'm aware it references the DMCA access control clause. There are legalities against hacking an iDevice.
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