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Hey everyone. U just got my first 360 and I would really like to softmodding my system. I hear that you can hack the xbox 360 disc drive. Is that true??Thanks
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Originally Posted by BenJerryAnd the source...
CRAP! You've figured it out!! All they had to do was read the drive firmware!Seriously, though, I've already discussed this point. Microsoft forced it's vendors to put in something called "Firmguard" - a feature that was supposed to make it IMPOSSIBLE to read the contents of the drive (in the console).It is only because those same vendors couldn't stand to part with some form of access to the firmware, that hackers were able to coax the drives to give up their contents using a VIA chipset and some manual intervention (cycling power, tray positions, etc...). Getting the drive in this special debug state is only possible on a PC, Microsoft has NO WAY of reading the firmware directly.Indirectly, however, there are things they can do. With current iXtreme firmwares, there shouldn't be any tells, except for games that have incorrect (but valid) special sectors. They also probably have one or more ways to tell if we've opened our consoles while in the process of modding the systems - the one big example I can think of is powering up with the optical drive disconnected, then reconnecting the drive and powering back up. An official repair facility would scrub this sort of information from the onboard memory, but the average user wouldn't be able to do this.All that said, it most certainly isn't a single method being employed against modders; it's a combination of poison pills (last year), bad rips, and some other techniques we haven't determined yet.The detection does not occur just before the ban. My own ban happened when there was no game disc inserted... I attempted to play an Xbox Live Arcade game. There is nothing preventing Microsoft from determining your system is modded (by whatever means), noting it in memory, and passing the info along to their servers to be flagged for a ban at some point in the future. It is even possible this latest ban wave is even hitting people who played poison pills from last year (so called "pre-release" Saints Row 2 and Fallout 3), but were purposely left off the ban wave to add more FUD and confuse the scene.At any rate, we can rule out directly querying the firmware. Firmguard makes that an impractical effort.
ace1o1 · #2Why yes it is so very true. :)Unfortunately, the only 360 expert I know of is on another forum.I have never done a 360 before or else I could help you...I have only done DS/Wii/PSP..If you want, I can give you some links. Send me a PM if you're interested.I know that you need the iXtreme firmware, and something called Jungle Flasher I think...There's WAY more to it than that. :PIve pretty much mastered the arts of hacking wii-psp-ds-ps2 and GC. But I have always heard of a way that people softmod 360s and have never actually seen or found out how to do this.I guess I could try ep but I dont really think there as noob friendly as romulation so I guess that leaves me one choice...GOOGLE :)