Does Satan Exist?

growlthOk I admit I'm flawed in debating and I'm lacking in explaining my beliefs fully, but that's why I jumped into this because unlike other Christians I want to learn how to better myself with debates. My father, being a theologian, could give you a good debate but I admit I'm pretty suckish. I know that 99% of Christians you will find will be babbling and just reply to your comments with a quick "Stop it!" or "God is real!" but I try and explain more and end up doing what every noob does and mess myself up. I'm sorry if I annoyed you but I'm pretty glad you guys could give me a run for my money and get me caught up into noob mistakes (even though it was probably just myself that messed up). I know I'm not the one to prove if God is real or not, as Natewlie said I don't believe in everything in the Bible but I got caught up in my idiot Sunday School lessons that I'm trying to leave behind. I still believe in God, I do believe the Bible was written by God (through a bunch of people), and I do believe Jesus is the Son of God and came to save us all. I thank you for your comments, I'm done for now but I will continue to read your comments and maybe whatever you feel like saying I'll read. I won't change my beliefs and I'm pretty sure you guys won't because of a topic on RomUlation about Satan, but that's not what it's really about to me it's just trying to state my beliefs and not make a complete ass of myself, good learning experience and good for me to get my ass kicked for next time ;)

@ Growlth, Good man, you state your beliefs before any agenda.
No one has any right to take your beliefs from you, therefore recognise that you are not alone in belief of God, many people do and thay are not Christians, there is a world of religions, as the Mahabarat(Hindu/Vedic) says there is one God and one religion for each of us.
Religion should be a personal thing, something we do, not something we are; and if that means atheism or cannabis or satanism so be it.
There is one silly little problem in all this, some religions find the idea of getting converts as a brilliant thing, so much so they feel the need to shout on street corners or blow themselves up to prove how right they are.
I find that books are less reliable than common decency.
You seem to have the right attitude, read more.

LittlekillMy ancestors rode on the backs of the Tyrannosaurus Rex.With this knowledge we can prove Satan is real, because if the dinosaur point is fact, then so must Satan... be... fact. Real.End of Debate.

I love you. Also T. Rexes are cute when they're just chicks, aren't they? All fuzzy an' such.

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That's something I agree with. Though my sides are still hurting at the whole "someone just compared weed to Satanism" thing.

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I did not! However I am pleased to giggle you.

1prinnydood · #101cannabis or satanism so be it.

I will never let you live this down, Prinny.Yay for taking stuff out of context!

you know... earthly pleasure... like maybe sex... are sins i guess.. (when you not married) so does that mean i'm a sinner.. that i cary the seed of satan within me?it's like all bullshit.. really.. you can wage this argument war forever.. won't do a thingso that's my testament (oeps i meant statement:P)

1prinnydoodWell now Cahos, is that not like saying all Christians believe the Jews killed Jesus? You have made a masterstroke of ignorant assumption based on the thoughts of a few.

You obviously misread my post :PWhy don't you look up what Modern Satanism is all about, or try contacting an actual Satanist before you give out a bad rebuttal like that :PWhat I said was a fundamental concept of their religion's teachings. Where in Christianity or even Catholicism &/or Judaism teaches that earthly pleasures are meaningless as we must strive for the divine & spiritual, Satanism it seems teaches the opposite. And yeah, just like with Pagan (notice I said Pagan as Christians wrongfully label anything Pagan as Satanic even though it is not) religions Satanists also perform sacrificial (of animals not sure about human though) rituals & talisman empowerment as part of their belief system's practices.Too bad one admitted Satanist (his username was Santino.... I forgot the rest) who got banned from RomUlation can't enlighten us on their church's teachings.

Yes, Satan not only exists, but is very much present in today's world. Everywhere you look, sin makes its nest in the hearts and minds of humanity. And what's worse, Satan's influence is so powerful now that most people don't even consider the fact that he exists because they're too concerned with their own greed and lust to stop and notice. We have turned away from the Lord as a society, and we're starting to pay for it in death tolls brought about by "natural disasters."

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You know, I—... Have you ever thought—...I really don't know what to say. Except that, as usual, everyone forgets Buddhism.

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Buddhism what's that? we as a trapped community don't understand this as we have never researched it before.

Actually, now that I think of it... Buddhism gets more attention than Hinduism and Zoroastrianism combined, doesn't it?Quick. Someone start an "Does Angra Mainyu Exist?" debate.

FacePoppies · #107We have turned away from the Lord as a society, and we're starting to pay for it in death tolls brought about by "natural disasters."

You're a typical devout Christian it seems.But do not disregard other religions just because your religious leaders demand you to. It's best you have an open mind & study up on them before you dismiss them so easily.Ever heard the saying, "You say tomato & I say tomato"?Even though many religions believe in different things, their "basal" teachings are the same:"Be good to others & good things may come your way.... be bad & bad things will surely follow"Or simply that of Karma or the Yin & yang.It's what's the religious leaders' doing & are demanding of you are what's wrong.And let me end by stating what a few of us stated on those older religion threads that have been forever locked for getting out of hand.Religion shouldn't have been institutionalized as it's basis is faith. Faith is something you believe in as an individual & not something force fed to you early on. Just like what personality & interests you have faith is different with whomever is telling you what it is they believe in.

My only religious leader is the Lord Jesus Christ.

Well unlike you I accepted other religions, no matter how silly their beliefs are *cough* Scientology *cough*.And in fact I burrowed several ideals from other religions to encompass what I believe in, so My God is not a vengeful God, he's actually a very fun loving God.He actually hates it when someone has to go to hell, but he has to do the right thing, I mean some maniac raping little girls, a murderer with no remorse.... those types don't deserve to be in heaven... no wait. I don't believe in an end all heave either. I believe in Reincarnation since it kinda makes sense. What is light without dark? What is life without death? So yeah, it's an un-ending cycle of life & death, unless you've really been a ver bad boy (or girl) hence your life essence is taken away from the lifestream or is washed & refurbished with goodness so it can again return to mother Gaia.If you'll think my beliefs are loopy I don't give a flying fudge, at least it makes me happy & I live by it & no one is forcing me to believe it.... what did God call that gift he gave us? That's right Free will.So we all should just try to get along with one another & not impose on others mm'kay?

Your beliefs are inconsequential to me. Belief does not alter reality, and the reality here is found in The Holy Bible.

Cahos Rahne Veloza · #113I believe in Reincarnation since it kinda makes sense. What is light without dark? What is life without death?

http://forum.romulation.net/index.php?topic=37835.0Whoops, there goes your theory out the window, amirite?

it exist and don't ask why

FacePoppies · #107We have turned away from the Lord as a society, and we're starting to pay for it in death tolls brought about by "natural disasters."

so what about all the natural disasters that happened years ago when people had a sun god, a moon god, a sea god, a tv god and a wiping your arse god etc etc?
surely all that praying would have kept them safe?

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No, because they were worshiping false idols.

My concept of light & dark as two opposing yet similar entities stems from the idea of the Yin & the Yang from Eastern Philosophy & not from Physics.So is it with almost everything in "our world" (the world human understanding has proven &/or dis proven thus far), everything comes in twos but are actually part of a whole. Night & day, light & dark, good & evil & even Male & female are two different entities, yet are part of one species, in our case man. One can not live (propagate) without the other.

FacePoppies · #118No, because they were worshiping false idols.

in that case how do you know yours is real?