snebbers
#21
I thought the topic was "Do you believe with your religion?"Not "lets point out the flaws in everyone elses."
Forum archive
equitypetey · #22i wasn't necessarily pointing out flaws, i have said my opinion on them.if you see flaws from anything i have said does that not say anything to you?Eeep I was half joking.. Half Serious. :)I didn't see a flaw with what you were saying, I have accepted what you said. >_<Umm...?
equitypeteyyou don't need any faith in any of the terms, evolution is the most proven thing ever beyond all doubt and is backed up by so many other sciences and theories.remember something under the title of "the theory of" is not just an idea it's things that are backed up by evidence and is only accepted after scrutiny from peer review.the only reason things are called theories is because science doesn't have the arrogance to assume things as "the truth" so it allows for someone come up with a better theory, if it can again be backed up by evidence and/or consistent repeatable experiments.that's why i said it's a misuse. faith in god and faith in things you experience or that are real are two different things.Yes. The theory of evolution has evidence to fight its corner, and yes, we didn't evolve from chimps, but share a common ancestor. Yes evolution, for the most part, has been proven scientifically.Let's just say I'm faithless and be done with it. : 3I still say you can have faith in things you know to be present, to which I do.
it's not normally a problem but in a debate the people that have already distorted the real world to allow them selves to believe in something the misuse of a different understanding of words can cause the debate to get stuck like the theory thingtheories= ideas/ways of explaining things not necessarily having evidence (but should have)
scientific theories= ideas/ways of explaining things that are backed up
The theory of= something that is an explanation completely backed up by evidencejust thought i'd add that not so much for you but so we don't have the usual "it's only a theory" crap that usually spots out of people.seen being the word, nothing to do with god can be backed up by evidence or testable means.
there are thousands of people that say they have been abducted by aliens, do you believe them just because they say so?
phscarface · #23I do believe in my religion, and if you like or not, just respect the other's toughs.why do people think that religion deserves respect, especially if at it's fundamentals have ideologies i disagree with. pedoes believe kids are great sex partners shall we respect them for there belief?belief in something does not automatically equal anything that deserves respect.
equitypetey · #26not to keep it off topic but it's more then the most part it is now complete, there is no denying it what so ever.To quote Tim Minchin: "We're just fucking monkeys in shoes".And yes I agree. Belief doesn't = respect by default. Respect is earned.
also we are still classed as ape we are just another species of ape.
snebbersIn saying that though, I don't think everyone else is trapped, or narrow-minded, even though some people are. Who am I to tell you that you're wrong and narrow-minded.I can say someone is narrow-minded when he/she is one-sided. we should see both sides, after all we're individuals with different beliefs & opinions. just like this one:
equitypetey · #26why do people think that religion deserves respect, especially if at it's fundamentals have ideologies i disagree with. pedoes believe kids are great sex partners shall we respect them for there belief?belief in something does not automatically equal anything that deserves respect.you don't need to generalize. it's like in our society, there are law abiders and law breakers.
meobiDo you fully agree with your religion?only an idiot would be fully agree with my ex-religion, any religion in fact since they are nothing more then bedtime story design to control people with the fear of the unknow. Want me to fully agree on any religion, sure, ask your "god" to show its self.
crimson089 · #29you don't need to generalize. it's like in our society, there are law abiders and law breakers.Now someone wrote what he needed to read.
crimson089 · #29I can say someone is narrow-minded when he/she is one-sided.the problem is allot of people on the side of no religion are open minded and that's why they don't believe, it may seem like they are not but they are, if you where to give any real evidence or even a half decent debate to the table it may be a different case.and even if someone is narrow minded enough that they don't want to abandon all logic and allow the discussion of god like it is real, it's not half as narrow minded as someone that is so adamant that some text (that has been basically entirely debunked) is the "truth" and closes their eyes to facts.
snebbersYeah, with reasoning we can solve arguments with out things getting out of hand :)with the exception if your pinned by your original belief