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calvin_0wait there is an explanation? all i see is bunch of math formula.... i'm very slow when come to math.....The limit problem I have presented is supposed to illustrate one example why anything divided by zero is undefined. The key concept to know is what the term "limit" means.The mathematical definition of limit is the value of which the given function approaches to as the given input, (usually X), either approaches BOTH SIDES of a certain point of interest (in this case, it's 0), or approaches infinity.With that definition out of the way, let's take a look at an example:
The point of interest as well as the vertical line where x=1 has been indicated in red on the graph. We are interested in the limit as x approaches 1 from BOTH SIDES of that point, so we trace the graph from both sides of x=1.
Now, look what happened here. As we trace both sides where x = 0, both of our traces do not converge at all. So in this case, the limit is undefined, or 'does not exist'.Hence, anytime you take any given number or term and divide it by zero, the result is undefined.nomercyBe careful what you call undefined. If it is assumed 1/0 results in infinity, and everybody accepts this, then it is defined as such. Just like 2+2 can be 5.Read above. Also, for your information, the math and scientific community has formally accepted that anything divided by zero is undefined due to mathematical reasons.
nomercyAlso, in some fields 1/0 is defined. A good example for this is floating point. Computers have to be able to handle division-by-zero somehow.The IEEE standard design of the floating point unit forced any number (other than 0) divided by 0 to be "infinity", and 0/0 to be "NaN" (not-a-number). The former is used for certain applications in which it is allowed given that you are working with positive numbers only, for if you take the one-sided limit as x approaches 0 from the positive side, the result is infinity. However, in regards of computer software, dividing by zero does cause programs to crash as "runtime errors". So no, computers don't have to handle divide-by-zero cases at all except by crashing as Loonylion mentioned.
HyprDo you even know what the mathematical definition of 'limit' means?And no, your answer is not acceptable; it's wrong. +/- infinity is not even a valid answer for limits.I think f(x) = 1/x is the kind of function you call partially continuous so it could have a partial limit too.
Hypr · #23I'll borrow Marcy's graph since I'm lazy.Not my graph. :D I stole it, too. :PEDIT:
marcy · #25I think f(x) = 1/x is the kind of function you call partially continuous so it could have a partial limit too.There is no such thing as a "partially continuous" function. Either the function is continuous, or discontinuous. In this case, the function, f(x) = 1/x is discontinuous at x = 0.Also, you have misused the term "partial limit". Partial limits are only applicable for functions of multiple variables.
But I agree with you it has no single limit and no two. It's divergent, from the left and from the right.as x -> 0+0 f(x) -> +infinity (from the right)
as x -> 0-0 f(x) -> -infinity (from the left)Yes, that's no limit, but a asymptote. :) (and I never used the word limit in my previous post)
Not my graph. :D I stole it, too. :PEDIT:
I just remembered this nice function.
f(x) = sin (1/x)

http://www.sagenb.org/home/pub/398/# the limit of 1/x when x tends to zero above is infinityMoreover when we're extending the real numbers to a real projective line 1/0 = ∞ is true, even for normal calculations.NOTE: I know that ∞ can hardly be called a limit, since ∞ is no number, but limx->x[sub]0[/sub] f(x) = ∞ is a common syntax to express that the function is divergent at x0.
limit(1/x,x=0,dir='above')
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# the limit of 1/x when x tends to zero below is + infinity
limit(1/x,x=0,dir='below')