Brawl in General

then play like me and use a "classic controller"
All of brawls chars ARE different when you play as them (examples: my main is toon link and I'm almost invincible, but if I use normal link i get PWNED because of the small changes, same with wolf, good at using him, but hand me fox and down I go)
Jjigglypuff got nerfed, it was ironically the best character in melee.
Ganondorf... I don't see the point, hes a weaker/slower/uglier version of CF, there aren't any good points about him at all :S

dmac154Final Smash makes Brawl a little too easy, some character's smash moves are just hax and others are just plain dumb.

that's why me and my guys play it with no smash ballson another note, the Pokeballs seemed rather pathetic in Brawl for the most part. but i guess that's cause they were overpowered in Melee

like this guy purhaps

Replying to #23

eheheh he's good only if you manage to throw him at someone. but his range is like nothing, you practically have to be next to the target for it to work

i find the hammer head more useful ;D

I hear that japan is releasing smash bros 64 on virtual console.So i am looking forward to playing on the BEST stages ever when they release the English version

And while you wait I'll dust off the 64, call some mates and let the pixels fly.

Replying to #27

been there, done that. the Wii was occupied at my friend's place so us two went upstairs to play some old school smash
funny how the 64 version stands the test of time so well

Krusha · #27And while you wait I'll dust off the 64, call some mates and let the pixels fly.

I own all 3 smash games and still play them all.
The reason i cant wait for the VC version is so i don't have to put up with the 64s control stick ::)........

rush n kaos · #28been there, done that. the Wii was occupied at my friend's place so us two went upstairs to play some old school smash
funny how the 64 version stands the test of time so well

the 64 version was the first time I've ever heard of the god known as Captain Falcon.

well some people dont like final smashes but they are usually quite fair some examples of un fair onesfalco- lasts too long and is easy to kill with espetially with how good falco is anyway
snake- pwerful and long lasting and snake is good without it
there are probably more but none come to mind

Replying to #31

i find Snake's final easy to dodge if you time air dodges correctly. except i can't yet eheheh....
and you want cheap? i find Samus's zero laser just rigged. at least Zero Suit Samus isn't TOO too great in terms of fighting

your forgetting sonics lasts FOREVER.

yea i agree. sonics final smash is TOO powerful. even my 3 year old cousin could just move the analog back and forth while watching sonic KO some ppl...

Usoppu · #33your forgetting sonics lasts FOREVER.

Damn that hog to hell let him die in peace.

when you think REALLY hard about it the FSs are actually balanced quite well.
people only ever think of the smash itself when balancing, but the majority of them actually represent how hard it is to OBTAIN the smash ball.
It is very difficult for sonic to get the FS because the majority of his attacks are "hit'n'run" thus meaning he has to go back to the ball several times.
Meanwhile link can get the ball in a single down-A attack, but his actual FS has nearly no range to it.and Sonics FS is just as strong as Pikachu's, except Pika's is harder to dodge (people need to learn about dodges...)

Bob_Kill123 · #31snake- pwerful and long lasting

Incredibly powerful... provided he actually manages to hit anyone...

Replying to #36

when i listed off the unfair smashes i was not saying that they are the most powerful i was saying that they are far too powerful to be associated with a charecter that is powerful enough as it isalso you are wrong pikachu's final is more difficult to control and less powerful than sonic'sbut you seen to get some of the consept that finals ballence out the weak charecters with a power final and vise versa

Usoppu · #33your forgetting sonics lasts FOREVER.

i am not, sonic is not a powerful charecter his final is there to ballance him out

Replying to #37

Granted.
But when he was my main I was pretty good with him, I just got a little tired of taking 50+ hits to do what most chars do in 12 or so.Man sonic is impossible to hit when used right :P

Replying to #38

no kiddingbut i fail to see how Ollimar's final is supposed to balance him. i mean, the damage is not blockable, when he crashes back you probably fly off the screen if you get hit, if not you still took a bunch of damage, and pro ollimar users are just... O______O

Krusha · #38Man sonic is impossible to hit when used right :P

Well apparently, you can basically say that all the characters can by impossible to hit when used right =PBut yeah I get your meaning..... haha but the thing is that there are not many pro sonic players around.