Bleach Vs Naruto ? Which is better?

juto hoongboth i think........but i think tat naruto is type of stupid fellow,u know?now n there alwayssssss........... SASUKE....boring la....bleach i think te ichigo is type person hotblooded n no much brain capacity...juz think of it he always depend on his hollow power...conclusion they both cant stand a change to win GOKU...tat can destroy te earth in one shoot.....HAHA...

Hey, ya know grammar is cool too.

Both are good... And they have different concepts in story...

khairaj08wow. You watch a lot of anime.

Not a lot.The good ones.

Replying to #22

Pretty shallow in concept and story if you ask me.
I mean, I can guess what's coming next.
I like anime where I can't predict what's coming next.

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I must say I couldnt agree more, you also have some great choices in anime, some of my favorites.

I love Bleach and Naruto, They are my 2nd and 3rd favourite animes. My favourite is Katekyo Hitman Reborn. Lots of character development, cool battles and funny characters. Only problem is, Reborn filler is so awesome that you will end up liking the filler over the main story.

khairaj08What kind of father seals a demon into their son?

The good kind! ( lol )Anywho, I think that Naruto is better at a few things and bleach is better at other things. I like naruto because there seems to be a bit more fighting in it, but bleach has more of a focused story line to me, where naruto is more like " Ok, lets go to the bridge, great, we have to take an old guy with us, bridge?Oh no theres ninjas, now lets go to the brigde, oh no, more ninjas, brigde yet? Oh no even more ninjas. Finally bridge, Oh no, she male."All in all, I think Im going to have to say Bleach :-X

CrashmanXI must say I couldn't agree more, you also have some great choices in anime, some of my favorites.

I couldn't agree more with myself either. :)I can't stand Bleach and Naruto the same...I would personally enjoy watching Hamtaro over Bleach or Naruto.

Bleach was once good...I dunno how it's now because the fillers annoyed me so much that I stopped watching... And after a while it was just action and the story line started to suck. Tite Kubo broke my heartBut Naruto is pretty good, too...it's more consistent, but the revelations about Itachi, after he fights Sasuke, really fucked up my expectationsWell, some good animes you could watch are Evangelion, One Piece (the manga is better than the anime, lol), Cowboy Bebop, Hellsing... There's a funny manga series called School Rumble, I recommend that too.

ace1o1 · #27I couldn't agree more with myself either. :)I can't stand Bleach and Naruto the same...I would personally enjoy watching Hamtaro over Bleach or Naruto.

Hell yeah, Hamtaro all the way

naaaah naruto all the way *looks at name and avatar*

forte_amirul · #29Hell yeah, Hamtaro all the way

FUCK YEA HAMTARO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Btw, nice Kamen Rider Siggy. Kugga and G3 are pretty beastly.

darknova91230 · #26Anywho, I think that Naruto is better at a few things and bleach is better at other things. I like naruto because there seems to be a bit more fighting in it, but bleach has more of a focused story line to me, where naruto is more like " Ok, lets go to the bridge, great, we have to take an old guy with us, bridge?Oh no theres ninjas, now lets go to the brigde, oh no, more ninjas, brigde yet? Oh no even more ninjas. Finally bridge, Oh no, she male."All in all, I think Im going to have to say Bleach :-X

Same here. Explosions are fun.

i can't decide this since Naruto and Bleach is my fav anime...

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Go to Hulu, watch just about any anime on there that ISNT Naruto, Bleach, or Macross. Then come back and tell me those are still your favorites. You'll quickly learn that just because it has a Fuck ton of episodes and is English dubbed, its not great.

Dess · #5It seems like you guys are missing a rather major point, the character development and story progression in bleach is near non-existent, also it has trouble keeping with it's own canon.I have been reading bleach since before the soul society arc, only Cthulhu knows why I keep reading it every week.Point one no chaarcter development: It is chapter 398 and the character development for the central characters leaves them feeling like cardboard cutouts of people. At first glance they seem decent but on a second look they are flat and lifeless. Ichigo just comes across as a worthless punk who's powers grow every other episode. There have been so many chances to grow him as a character but the author decided to add more speed lines instead of dialogue. In fact even after so many chapters I have yet to feel attached to any of the main cast and actively hope Ichigo dies every fight he enters. It is pretty bad when the main character is unlikable on top of looking like how someone would describe Goku if they only watched every tenth episode of DBZ (which totally had more of a story then bleach).Point two lack of a story: Like previously mentioned bleach is on chapter 398 and they have had approximately approximately 4-5 arcs.
Ichigo gets his powers and fights for a bit, Rukia gets kidnapped and he trains and goes to soul society, he gets back and bums around a bit before his other female friend gets kidnapped and he has to travel to hollow land to get her back, of course not before he trains some more. Then there is turn back the pendulum, and hollow land kind of segways into beat up aizen arc (really not distinct enough to be counted as an arc in my opinion but I included it anyways). This isn't even the worst part, 90% of each chapter are pictures of speedlines and characters looking mad or surprised. The author doesn't even bother to add text to these panels, or even backgrounds(totally doesn't fit here but it is true)...Also another gripe I have about the story is that it is pretty much power rangers. No one of any importance ever dies. For convenience I'll use the latest arc as an example.Bleach: Five outlandish gimmicky bad guys show up and start wrecking buildings and other crap. Ichigo- "Oh noes the town is in trouble time to stop them". Fights and fights and fights, isn't strong enough, trains and trains and trains. Goes to hollow land, fights generic guys of no importance, boss, more generic guys, another boss or two. Comes close to dying, reaches inside and finds additional power and beats up boss guy. Cut to other bad guy who laughs and calls the last guy defeated weak and sends someone else to be pummeled.Power rangers:eek:utlandish gimmicky bad guy knocks down some buildings. Zordon "Power rangers the earth is in trouble!", rangers transform and go to bad guy. Rangers fight generic putties, then go and fight boss characters. Rangers nearly defeated but combine their powers and form the megazord just in time to beat the bad guy. Cut to Rita cursing the rangers and promising to send another bad guy next week.Point three plot holes and general nonsensicalness: One would think that with what little story there is that the author could at least have a coherent story that made sense, hahaha, think again. First off there is soul society, it is where you go when you die. Well it would be where you go when you die if the members of soul society weren't lazy. Since they are pretty lazy there is a good chance that when someone dies they either wait around so long they turn into a hollow or are eaten by a hollow. Let's say that you are saved, well congratulations you now get to spend your ghost years floating around in poverty walled out of soul society city where all the fancy elitist shinigami live in relative luxury. All in all this is the most terrifying portrayal of the afterlife I have ever heard of. Yes even more terrifying then how Rastafarians go to Africa when they die. Moving on, you know who is in soul society? The badass kenpachi is in soul society, you know the guy who became a captain through his mad sword skills. Funny thing is that Kenpachi who has thousands of years of training with the sword was defeated by a boy who had picked up a sword for the first time a few months before. A boy whose idea of swordsmanship is wildly slashing people and running around them in circles. Speaking of Ichigo, isn't it great how he got a bankai, you know bankai which even the immensely strong noble families only produce someone who is capable of using it every few generations. Isn't it also swell how Renji and baldy whose name I don't care to recall are able to produce one as well at convenient points. You know the two guys who were able to beaten by Ichigo when he was at a relatively low level of power. Assuming Ichigo is a prodigy and is able to go from spiritual loseer to over nine thousand in the course of a week, there is no way in hell that baldy and Renji are. Man now that I am on gaining powers at convenient times I feel I should go back to the kind of this domain, Ichigo. Look at Ichigo go, just when you thought that an upper limit had been established for shinigami you get slapped in the face with a hollow mask. Ichigo's mask levels up at times when the author seemingly gets tired with the bad guy of the week he created and wants to finish the fight. It gets so bad that it even for all intents and purposes raises him from the dead. I think the translators got "hollow" and "deus ex machina" mixed up. Another great bit is that if you are female and one of Ichigo's friends then your sole purpose in the story is to act as a damsel in distress. It doesn't matter if you can manipulate the fabric of time or have centuries of fighting experience (Rukia is totally old enough to be Ichigo's grandmother", you will be kidnapped and you will be stuck in a tower whether you like it or not.Also Crashman, at first I was going to give you a 0/10 for your trolling efforts then I remembered where we are, 08/10.

This is funny but you can't be more wrong lmao. There will be a part 2 aswell.His character is not an agglomeration of one-dimensional tropes like eating or violent troublemaking for fun, therefore, for /a/, he will forever be void of "personality". Those tropes are the only things that a/ can define a "personality" through (moe isn't really deeper than that). That is actually what /a/ thinks that a "personality" is. Thanks to the horrific dumbfuckening of the shonen standard by DBZ, anything more complex is above the reading comprehension now.
That being said, Ichigo is a good character, but that will never be comprehended here.
Most likely because the only people who are unaware of it and are lso willing to ague about it are the Narutards.
Not worlds apart yet, like how it will be in the Fake Karakura Town war, but we are getting there.

Dess · #5It seems like you guys are missing a rather major point, the character development and story progression in bleach is near non-existent, also it has trouble keeping with it's own canon.I have been reading bleach since before the soul society arc, only Cthulhu knows why I keep reading it every week.Point one no chaarcter development: It is chapter 398 and the character development for the central characters leaves them feeling like cardboard cutouts of people. At first glance they seem decent but on a second look they are flat and lifeless. Ichigo just comes across as a worthless punk who's powers grow every other episode. There have been so many chances to grow him as a character but the author decided to add more speed lines instead of dialogue. In fact even after so many chapters I have yet to feel attached to any of the main cast and actively hope Ichigo dies every fight he enters. It is pretty bad when the main character is unlikable on top of looking like how someone would describe Goku if they only watched every tenth episode of DBZ (which totally had more of a story then bleach).Point two lack of a story: Like previously mentioned bleach is on chapter 398 and they have had approximately approximately 4-5 arcs.
Ichigo gets his powers and fights for a bit, Rukia gets kidnapped and he trains and goes to soul society, he gets back and bums around a bit before his other female friend gets kidnapped and he has to travel to hollow land to get her back, of course not before he trains some more. Then there is turn back the pendulum, and hollow land kind of segways into beat up aizen arc (really not distinct enough to be counted as an arc in my opinion but I included it anyways). This isn't even the worst part, 90% of each chapter are pictures of speedlines and characters looking mad or surprised. The author doesn't even bother to add text to these panels, or even backgrounds(totally doesn't fit here but it is true)...Also another gripe I have about the story is that it is pretty much power rangers. No one of any importance ever dies. For convenience I'll use the latest arc as an example.Bleach: Five outlandish gimmicky bad guys show up and start wrecking buildings and other crap. Ichigo- "Oh noes the town is in trouble time to stop them". Fights and fights and fights, isn't strong enough, trains and trains and trains. Goes to hollow land, fights generic guys of no importance, boss, more generic guys, another boss or two. Comes close to dying, reaches inside and finds additional power and beats up boss guy. Cut to other bad guy who laughs and calls the last guy defeated weak and sends someone else to be pummeled.Power rangers:eek:utlandish gimmicky bad guy knocks down some buildings. Zordon "Power rangers the earth is in trouble!", rangers transform and go to bad guy. Rangers fight generic putties, then go and fight boss characters. Rangers nearly defeated but combine their powers and form the megazord just in time to beat the bad guy. Cut to Rita cursing the rangers and promising to send another bad guy next week.Point three plot holes and general nonsensicalness: One would think that with what little story there is that the author could at least have a coherent story that made sense, hahaha, think again. First off there is soul society, it is where you go when you die. Well it would be where you go when you die if the members of soul society weren't lazy. Since they are pretty lazy there is a good chance that when someone dies they either wait around so long they turn into a hollow or are eaten by a hollow. Let's say that you are saved, well congratulations you now get to spend your ghost years floating around in poverty walled out of soul society city where all the fancy elitist shinigami live in relative luxury. All in all this is the most terrifying portrayal of the afterlife I have ever heard of. Yes even more terrifying then how Rastafarians go to Africa when they die. Moving on, you know who is in soul society? The badass kenpachi is in soul society, you know the guy who became a captain through his mad sword skills. Funny thing is that Kenpachi who has thousands of years of training with the sword was defeated by a boy who had picked up a sword for the first time a few months before. A boy whose idea of swordsmanship is wildly slashing people and running around them in circles. Speaking of Ichigo, isn't it great how he got a bankai, you know bankai which even the immensely strong noble families only produce someone who is capable of using it every few generations. Isn't it also swell how Renji and baldy whose name I don't care to recall are able to produce one as well at convenient points. You know the two guys who were able to beaten by Ichigo when he was at a relatively low level of power. Assuming Ichigo is a prodigy and is able to go from spiritual loseer to over nine thousand in the course of a week, there is no way in hell that baldy and Renji are. Man now that I am on gaining powers at convenient times I feel I should go back to the kind of this domain, Ichigo. Look at Ichigo go, just when you thought that an upper limit had been established for shinigami you get slapped in the face with a hollow mask. Ichigo's mask levels up at times when the author seemingly gets tired with the bad guy of the week he created and wants to finish the fight. It gets so bad that it even for all intents and purposes raises him from the dead. I think the translators got "hollow" and "deus ex machina" mixed up. Another great bit is that if you are female and one of Ichigo's friends then your sole purpose in the story is to act as a damsel in distress. It doesn't matter if you can manipulate the fabric of time or have centuries of fighting experience (Rukia is totally old enough to be Ichigo's grandmother", you will be kidnapped and you will be stuck in a tower whether you like it or not.Also Crashman, at first I was going to give you a 0/10 for your trolling efforts then I remembered where we are, 08/10.

Part 2However, what comes immediately after that is the climax of his Hollow power plotline. His fears coming true, he loses control entirely and awakens to the notion that he killed and mutilated an enemy and he wounded one of his own friends.
Upon this, he loses his shit so much, he does this to try and save the last drips of his dignity. Of course, Ulquiorra dies. This is Ichigo's first kill in the series, which is a "didn't go as planned" moment for him, and also his moment of awakening to the fact that his enemies kinda die if he kills them. Compare it to this moment:

The two fights are parallel to each other, but with different outcomes. In Byakuya's case, he could play the hero role that changes the big boss, but in the case of Ulquiorra it went horribly wrong.
This makes Ichigo gloomy, which is understandable again. Rukia narrates this in Eyes of the Victor.

But he doesn't lose himself over it. It just changes him.
This is Ichigo narrating Yammy's absence of reaction to the Espada dying, and Inoue feeling bad for Ulquiorra. It shows the Hollow-Human difference.
This is Byakuya believing in Ichigo.
And the next page is Ichigo, for the FIRST time in the series, using the word "korose" (to kill) instead of "taose" (to defeat) when talking about his enemy.
Errata: It seems that this might be wrong. In volume raw scans he uses "taose". Some claim he used "korose" in magazine, but we're still looking for proof.This is the next milestone.
And now compare Ichigo to his old self.

and compare the two again.
This is the first point in the story where Ichigo shows signs of growing out of his initial teenage personality issues. Aizen starts talking shit about the hated and everything that Hollows were talking about too, but by this point Ichigo doesn�t listen anymore.
Accordingly to his character growth, the Gotei 13 Captains acknowledge Ichigo. This is the point which could be used as a reference to the events in the Fullbring Arc where they state that Ichigo changed their viewpoint on the whole Substitute Shinigami business. By this point, Ichigo is fighting for Soul Society as much as for Karakura.
He is literally stated to be Captain material here, compared to Aizen who is not.
As an intermission, Aizen here entirely destroys Ichigo's perception of life so far.
Shortly after that, Isshin shocks him by appearing as a Shinigami.
I would call the whole Aizen business bad writing, and it also reeks of several levels of retcon, but I give Kubo the credit for making Ichigo deal with this shit accordingly to the person who he has become,
and incidentally writing the most mature moment of the character in the entire series so far.

Dess · #5It seems like you guys are missing a rather major point, the character development and story progression in bleach is near non-existent, also it has trouble keeping with it's own canon.I have been reading bleach since before the soul society arc, only Cthulhu knows why I keep reading it every week.Point one no chaarcter development: It is chapter 398 and the character development for the central characters leaves them feeling like cardboard cutouts of people. At first glance they seem decent but on a second look they are flat and lifeless. Ichigo just comes across as a worthless punk who's powers grow every other episode. There have been so many chances to grow him as a character but the author decided to add more speed lines instead of dialogue. In fact even after so many chapters I have yet to feel attached to any of the main cast and actively hope Ichigo dies every fight he enters. It is pretty bad when the main character is unlikable on top of looking like how someone would describe Goku if they only watched every tenth episode of DBZ (which totally had more of a story then bleach).Point two lack of a story: Like previously mentioned bleach is on chapter 398 and they have had approximately approximately 4-5 arcs.
Ichigo gets his powers and fights for a bit, Rukia gets kidnapped and he trains and goes to soul society, he gets back and bums around a bit before his other female friend gets kidnapped and he has to travel to hollow land to get her back, of course not before he trains some more. Then there is turn back the pendulum, and hollow land kind of segways into beat up aizen arc (really not distinct enough to be counted as an arc in my opinion but I included it anyways). This isn't even the worst part, 90% of each chapter are pictures of speedlines and characters looking mad or surprised. The author doesn't even bother to add text to these panels, or even backgrounds(totally doesn't fit here but it is true)...Also another gripe I have about the story is that it is pretty much power rangers. No one of any importance ever dies. For convenience I'll use the latest arc as an example.Bleach: Five outlandish gimmicky bad guys show up and start wrecking buildings and other crap. Ichigo- "Oh noes the town is in trouble time to stop them". Fights and fights and fights, isn't strong enough, trains and trains and trains. Goes to hollow land, fights generic guys of no importance, boss, more generic guys, another boss or two. Comes close to dying, reaches inside and finds additional power and beats up boss guy. Cut to other bad guy who laughs and calls the last guy defeated weak and sends someone else to be pummeled.Power rangers:eek:utlandish gimmicky bad guy knocks down some buildings. Zordon "Power rangers the earth is in trouble!", rangers transform and go to bad guy. Rangers fight generic putties, then go and fight boss characters. Rangers nearly defeated but combine their powers and form the megazord just in time to beat the bad guy. Cut to Rita cursing the rangers and promising to send another bad guy next week.Point three plot holes and general nonsensicalness: One would think that with what little story there is that the author could at least have a coherent story that made sense, hahaha, think again. First off there is soul society, it is where you go when you die. Well it would be where you go when you die if the members of soul society weren't lazy. Since they are pretty lazy there is a good chance that when someone dies they either wait around so long they turn into a hollow or are eaten by a hollow. Let's say that you are saved, well congratulations you now get to spend your ghost years floating around in poverty walled out of soul society city where all the fancy elitist shinigami live in relative luxury. All in all this is the most terrifying portrayal of the afterlife I have ever heard of. Yes even more terrifying then how Rastafarians go to Africa when they die. Moving on, you know who is in soul society? The badass kenpachi is in soul society, you know the guy who became a captain through his mad sword skills. Funny thing is that Kenpachi who has thousands of years of training with the sword was defeated by a boy who had picked up a sword for the first time a few months before. A boy whose idea of swordsmanship is wildly slashing people and running around them in circles. Speaking of Ichigo, isn't it great how he got a bankai, you know bankai which even the immensely strong noble families only produce someone who is capable of using it every few generations. Isn't it also swell how Renji and baldy whose name I don't care to recall are able to produce one as well at convenient points. You know the two guys who were able to beaten by Ichigo when he was at a relatively low level of power. Assuming Ichigo is a prodigy and is able to go from spiritual loseer to over nine thousand in the course of a week, there is no way in hell that baldy and Renji are. Man now that I am on gaining powers at convenient times I feel I should go back to the kind of this domain, Ichigo. Look at Ichigo go, just when you thought that an upper limit had been established for shinigami you get slapped in the face with a hollow mask. Ichigo's mask levels up at times when the author seemingly gets tired with the bad guy of the week he created and wants to finish the fight. It gets so bad that it even for all intents and purposes raises him from the dead. I think the translators got "hollow" and "deus ex machina" mixed up. Another great bit is that if you are female and one of Ichigo's friends then your sole purpose in the story is to act as a damsel in distress. It doesn't matter if you can manipulate the fabric of time or have centuries of fighting experience (Rukia is totally old enough to be Ichigo's grandmother", you will be kidnapped and you will be stuck in a tower whether you like it or not.Also Crashman, at first I was going to give you a 0/10 for your trolling efforts then I remembered where we are, 08/10.

And part 3After this graduation to an entirely new character tier, Kubo gives Ichigo new qualities, like being able to read the "hearts" of his enemies. This power of comprehension is not entirely new as he was always like this, but this is the first point in the series where he uses it consciously. It returns in the Fullbring Arc too.
He also predicts that Aizen will kill Gin. Ichigo's reaction to his death in the end is magnificent.
The scene where Ichigo completely ignores Aizen and looks at the lying Gin. Everything is there, sadness, understanding, "I called it".
This is art.
Not the art itself, but how the scene is constructed, how it was built up, and how it was executed in the end.
This is ten times the information that is exchanged between two characters through any ammount of dialogue in any manga, and without any dialogue at all.
It does not require dialogue. We know what both of them are thinking.
After this is the defeat of Aizen, and we all know how this ended. Ichigo's melancholy is because he decided to sacrifice all his powers to save everyone. Ichigo's entire character revolved around getting power. His goal before becoming a Shinigami was to gain power. Some could call this a karmic test, and he fucking passed it.
Then he meets up with his friends and says goodbye to Rukia. This is a completely different character than the one from the beginning. Looks different, acts different, is different. There is benevolence in his eyes instead of punkish behavior. And with this growth, we move on to the Fullbring Arc.
The Fullbring Arc is pretty straightforward and Ichigo does not change in it that much, but his character is trialed through the entirety of the arc. This arc is not here to develop him, but to establish his new character which he gained through the manga so far. That is why Kubo set it as a reboot arc.
As you all should have read that in the interview regarding the final arc (Yeah, I know some of you haven't, that's why I'm saying it) Kubo planned the Fullbring Arc and the Thousand-Year Blood War Arc somewhere in the middle of the Arrancar Arc. It was intentional.
What we do see is Ichigo being more genre savvy, which is funny.
Awareness of his own character.
And the ability to plan more steps forward in a battle, effectively trolling the enemy.
You gotta thank Aizen for that I guess.
Here he shows signs of seeing into the heart of Ginjou, or rather not being able to, effectively foreshadowing Ginjou's turn.
I would not call this character developement, because I think this character developement happened here:

But it certainly reestablishes this nature of Ichigo.
Then he is trolled to death, his whole world collapses...
And from the depths of despair he is pulled out by SS. It is worth mentioning that in Nestle to Night it is mentioned that when Renji asks the 4th division guys to take away Ichigo after he collapses from his power loss, he says "Take care of that man! He is the hero of Soul Society!" And the narration says something like "and the name of the hero spread fast among the Shinigami." Ichigo at this point, is a fucking legend in SS.
He is an acknowledged fighter and an acknowledged hero, and he fucking earned every single inch of it.
Which is described by this moment beautifully.
And this is how this kid:

who didn't want to save anyone but who was near him, turns into the Hero of Soul Society who doesn't stand back not even after he is told manipulative things about SS. So he does have alot of character development and thats not even including the thousand year blood war arc. His character development is alot more mature and realistic than narutos. Ichigo never changes his outward look on life that much but his inner feelings and this is revealed when he pushed to his limit. Great job misrepresenting ichigo and bleach dipshit.

Dess · #5It seems like you guys are missing a rather major point, the character development and story progression in bleach is near non-existent, also it has trouble keeping with it's own canon.I have been reading bleach since before the soul society arc, only Cthulhu knows why I keep reading it every week.Point one no chaarcter development: It is chapter 398 and the character development for the central characters leaves them feeling like cardboard cutouts of people. At first glance they seem decent but on a second look they are flat and lifeless. Ichigo just comes across as a worthless punk who's powers grow every other episode. There have been so many chances to grow him as a character but the author decided to add more speed lines instead of dialogue. In fact even after so many chapters I have yet to feel attached to any of the main cast and actively hope Ichigo dies every fight he enters. It is pretty bad when the main character is unlikable on top of looking like how someone would describe Goku if they only watched every tenth episode of DBZ (which totally had more of a story then bleach).Point two lack of a story: Like previously mentioned bleach is on chapter 398 and they have had approximately approximately 4-5 arcs.
Ichigo gets his powers and fights for a bit, Rukia gets kidnapped and he trains and goes to soul society, he gets back and bums around a bit before his other female friend gets kidnapped and he has to travel to hollow land to get her back, of course not before he trains some more. Then there is turn back the pendulum, and hollow land kind of segways into beat up aizen arc (really not distinct enough to be counted as an arc in my opinion but I included it anyways). This isn't even the worst part, 90% of each chapter are pictures of speedlines and characters looking mad or surprised. The author doesn't even bother to add text to these panels, or even backgrounds(totally doesn't fit here but it is true)...Also another gripe I have about the story is that it is pretty much power rangers. No one of any importance ever dies. For convenience I'll use the latest arc as an example.Bleach: Five outlandish gimmicky bad guys show up and start wrecking buildings and other crap. Ichigo- "Oh noes the town is in trouble time to stop them". Fights and fights and fights, isn't strong enough, trains and trains and trains. Goes to hollow land, fights generic guys of no importance, boss, more generic guys, another boss or two. Comes close to dying, reaches inside and finds additional power and beats up boss guy. Cut to other bad guy who laughs and calls the last guy defeated weak and sends someone else to be pummeled.Power rangers:eek:utlandish gimmicky bad guy knocks down some buildings. Zordon "Power rangers the earth is in trouble!", rangers transform and go to bad guy. Rangers fight generic putties, then go and fight boss characters. Rangers nearly defeated but combine their powers and form the megazord just in time to beat the bad guy. Cut to Rita cursing the rangers and promising to send another bad guy next week.Point three plot holes and general nonsensicalness: One would think that with what little story there is that the author could at least have a coherent story that made sense, hahaha, think again. First off there is soul society, it is where you go when you die. Well it would be where you go when you die if the members of soul society weren't lazy. Since they are pretty lazy there is a good chance that when someone dies they either wait around so long they turn into a hollow or are eaten by a hollow. Let's say that you are saved, well congratulations you now get to spend your ghost years floating around in poverty walled out of soul society city where all the fancy elitist shinigami live in relative luxury. All in all this is the most terrifying portrayal of the afterlife I have ever heard of. Yes even more terrifying then how Rastafarians go to Africa when they die. Moving on, you know who is in soul society? The badass kenpachi is in soul society, you know the guy who became a captain through his mad sword skills. Funny thing is that Kenpachi who has thousands of years of training with the sword was defeated by a boy who had picked up a sword for the first time a few months before. A boy whose idea of swordsmanship is wildly slashing people and running around them in circles. Speaking of Ichigo, isn't it great how he got a bankai, you know bankai which even the immensely strong noble families only produce someone who is capable of using it every few generations. Isn't it also swell how Renji and baldy whose name I don't care to recall are able to produce one as well at convenient points. You know the two guys who were able to beaten by Ichigo when he was at a relatively low level of power. Assuming Ichigo is a prodigy and is able to go from spiritual loseer to over nine thousand in the course of a week, there is no way in hell that baldy and Renji are. Man now that I am on gaining powers at convenient times I feel I should go back to the kind of this domain, Ichigo. Look at Ichigo go, just when you thought that an upper limit had been established for shinigami you get slapped in the face with a hollow mask. Ichigo's mask levels up at times when the author seemingly gets tired with the bad guy of the week he created and wants to finish the fight. It gets so bad that it even for all intents and purposes raises him from the dead. I think the translators got "hollow" and "deus ex machina" mixed up. Another great bit is that if you are female and one of Ichigo's friends then your sole purpose in the story is to act as a damsel in distress. It doesn't matter if you can manipulate the fabric of time or have centuries of fighting experience (Rukia is totally old enough to be Ichigo's grandmother", you will be kidnapped and you will be stuck in a tower whether you like it or not.Also Crashman, at first I was going to give you a 0/10 for your trolling efforts then I remembered where we are, 08/10.

Now to respond to everything else, so you're wrong about the character development, the story progression is absolutely fine, its abit generic sometimes and ichigos reason for going to los noches was just like his reason for going to ss but its achieved well and executed fine untill the very end of the aizen arc where he does pull somewhat of a dues ex machina with final getsuga tensho but atleast its no fucking kaguya lmao who was immediately thrown into the series while the final getsuga tensho was atleast mentioned a few episodes before and wtf are you talking about, it stays consistent with its own cannon all the time, there are no plotholes just loose threads unlike naruto, like when and how does sasuke learn to summon hawks, why wasnt naruto put up for adoption, sakuras genjutsu is never explained, why didn't orochimaru go after the shinigami release mask, how did rock lee pass the exam lmao, why tf does kakashi have a susanoo after getting obitos mangekyo when obito himself doesnt have it lmao, why didn't danzo make his move after the 3rd hokage died and an unanswered question is the akatsuki ring? Whats there relavence and deal? you are just shit talking bleach and summarising plot points incorrectly to make it seem like the narrative is bad when you yourself are not representing it correctly, you are essentially strawmanning bleach lmao. This comment is pretty fucking stupid. But it's kinda funny. Also i dont think you have watched bleach because alot of what you said pertaining tp the story is wrong.

Besides your dedicated bleach post this is one hell of a time bump,from 2010 to 2018