are roms illegal

I think it was more of a personal note, from the angle that id get done for it harsher than most others lol. Sucks for me.

Sephin Denmark, in order for something to do stolen the definition clearly is that it must be removed from a person without said persons consent, so copying it would not be stealing. It'd still be illegal though, just not stolen.

UK Law works on a similar principle. For something to be stolen, the prosecution must prove that you took it with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it. If intent cannot be proven (i.e you returned the item) you cannot be convicted of theft.

It's legal to download here in the Netherlands. Uploading isn't.Also, who here still pays 65-70 euro for a new game? Like who bought Halo 3 when it was released?

SephThat's not entirely accurate, if you own the game and you make the dump yourself then you're fully entitled to that, you are always allowed to make a backup copy of any digital data. The keyword here is make, not download.

I can at least say that in the german law, you are allowed to make a backup of software (and games are software) and therefor you are even allowed to crack a copy-protection.

Interesting discussion and nice info...I would like to add a few words...I personally believe making backup copies of games is legal.Also R4 and other flash cart guys will state in the court that their products are for homebrew stuff only..Though they release firmware updates which fix game playability issues (illegal roms!!)I am not against any flash cart manufacturer or any sites offering roms!!Just sharing my thoughts
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some wise words, from a silly man.i myself believe that Roms are illegal and that anyone using them could be taken to court but, and this is a big but, lots of people use them and find them very useful. so if you do actually use them, they are for your pleasure but you are at your own risk. just saying even though i use them.